• I don’t mind doing work, but I do mind not being compensated enough that even working 60+ hours a week won’t afford me even the cheapest rat-hole to live in. The fuck is the point of spending my time slaving away for some rich fuck to get richer while I live in the street or a car if I am lucky?

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      The slavery is the point. The robber-barons of 100 years ago determined a tired, busy workforce doesn’t have time to organize or protest.

      (The idea wasn’t precisely new - they didn’t invent exploitation, but they shaped the industrial revolution and as such their impact can be felt across the modern world.)

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    I think heard in passing, some video clip saying a dude was “promoting the 9-5 lifestyle”, aka having a job? Is that bad now? I’m getting old.

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      It’s more exploitative than many younger individuals agree with. 40 hours and still can’t buy a home? I’d say the 9 to 5 is a failed experiment.

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        Thanks for the context. Fwiw I can definitely empathize with that. Companies have been giving employees shit deals more and more over time.

        For instance, I’ve met single company lifers and can’t imagine that level of loyalty given a company wouldn’t think twice to lay me off.

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          A lot of people like that are just coasting along, and fairly happy with where they are.

          And that’s fine, if your company treats you well, it’s not a moral failing or anything.

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            No judgements either way, but some people do believe their company cares about them. I have yet to experience that myself is all.

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          “I think the system is unfair and could be dramatically improved.”

          “This is the improved version! No further progress shall be made! Work your 9-5 and be glad you’re not locked in the shirtwaist factory for twelve hours a day!”

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            I like how you totally changed what you said, put it in quotes, and then did the exact same thing to me. This is a great example of a straw man: take what your interlocutor said, turn it into an extreme pantomime farce, and then bat it down. Feel better?

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              I was paraphrasing both OP and yourself to create a farce, yes. Because farces are funny. It was a joke, not a clever and cutting rhetorical maneuver.

              So, yeah, sucks a little that you took it so personally, but I do feel pretty good about it.

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                You “paraphrased” what you said to be more reasonable than what you actually said, and “paraphrased” what I said to be less reasonable than what I actually said. Gee, neat trick.

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            He said it was a “failed experiment.”

            That does indeed make it sound pretty pointless.

            “This is a failed experiment” does not mean “it’s an improvement but we should go further.”

            I know everybody wants me to just get their point, and I do, but the words we choose also matter, and these were poor ones.

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      In the future they’ll just censor all of the verbs, nouns, and adjectives.

      //Or, in modern parlance, “In the fture thy’ll just cnsr all of the vrbs, n**ns and adjctives.”

      The star will be the only vowel. Eventually they’ll just drop it all together and English will be only consonants. Children will ask “nn gndrd prnt fgr, why ds th kybrd hv ths xtr fnny lttrs?” And no one will know the answer.

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        Well, based upon using my eyes to read, I would assume they mean: a single mom who lives off of social security

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        In my neck of the woods it’s a derogatory term for women who are bragging about income while also receiving large child support checks + government assistance. I’ve only seen it used for strippers who have 3+ baby daddies collecting checks for full custody. Bragging about buying a new Escalade while being on government assistance is considered trashy. For perspective I don’t hate the players just the game.

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          I think it’s funny that people get mad at that but don’t get mad about someone born into $50mm of wealth collecting $166,666/mo partly insured with no obligation to work or even fill out forms.

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          Who decided to call them social security moms? Isn’t social security for retired elderly people? I highly doubt these people are getting social security.

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        From context I’m guessing it is a single mother who lives off social security and doesn’t go to work.

        I have heard the pejorative ‘Welfare Queen’ used to describe this.

        There will always be people that abuse benefits. There are also many people who cannot go to work and are doing their best to hold things together.

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            Kids probably are there just to extort the baby daddies for money tbh. Child support doesn’t count as income for the parent, at least in my country. You can get child support from multiple men and then continue to receive disability benefits for your migraine, end up with more than minimum wage and all you need to do is find the next guy, because he’ll help raise the kids while you sit around doing nothing, and eventually he’ll have to pay you child support too.

            This type of woman is like 0.1% of the general populace though, maybe less. I was baby daddy #2, but we cooperated to get our kids back from the abuser and now she actually has held a job for a whole 2 and a half weeks, which nobody thought possible.

            When I was still with her, she was burning through 3-4x national median pay per month and we literally didn’t have food money halfway through the month.

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      Yea, they are working and fighting hard for their children and yet they are treated like trash :(