• LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
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    Yeah cause that’s what we all want. An unseasoned, mayonnaise salad called America.

    I hate these stupid religious conservatives who don’t know what critical thinking is. Virus on society.

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    Makes me recall when calling out “Trump’s white America” apparently outraged some people in investing forum. Maybe those didn’t like their covers blown.

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      And then it well come down to who is white? And some people won’t be the right white and they well go after them.

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      I pointed this out to some Nazis on Diaspora back in 2016 and their answer was asking how many Jews were in Europe prior to Hitler. They aren’t that bright, but their thought leaders do have an understanding of demographics.

      They just want to change them, and I don’t think that they would rule out extreme amounts of violence to get the demographics they want.

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    The truth is all this is above America. Live for humanity. Nations are tools for the sinister minded wealthy. If they don’t have tools they can’t work. Live for humanity.

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    Religious participation is plummeting as the compassionate and reasonable people disassociate from Christianity

    The right is splintering, and the Kirk shooter being a neonazi shows this

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              I bet you also call anyone over the age of 18 a boomer too? It must be so hard having to deal with multiple points of view, and that not everyone fits into the little boxes we need to make your brain work.

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                  I am not. I am not even close to being a boomer. Not that it should matter, as the idea that generational birth would inform my or anyone elses values is pretty weird. You know that TV show the Witcher? Well, one of the producers for the show said that it was so badly written, because the complex nature of the stories would confuse Americans.

                  When a series is made for a huge mass of viewers, with different experiences, from different parts of the world, and a large part of them are Americans, these simplifications not only make sense, they are necessary. It’s painful for us, and for me too, but the higher level of nuance and complexity will have a smaller range, it won’t reach people. Sometimes it may go too far, but we have to make these decisions and accept them.

                  At the time I thought, he was wrong. But seeing you all now, its hard to disagree. Most of you are really incapable of seeing the larger picture, and cant follow cause and effect chains for longer than one instance. Too much tiktok and putting feelings of reality. You say them and they say them, but the reality is that theres multiple groups within groups all working independent of each other. Not even MAGA is all just one thing. The most obvious divide there being to release the Epstein files or not. But you all cherry pick each of the groups, for why the whole is the worst. They do it, you do it, and its all just one giant mess of excuses for being cunts to each other all the time. Its not even about winning anymore, its just about the game. About being nasty, and making someone else feel like shit.

                  And Im sorry, but thats just sad.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
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      This sounds like good news but they currently hold power. This is when they lash out the hardest.

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    Maga is Christian in name only. If hell is real, they’re all going to hell because nothing they do has anything to do with Christ’s teachings.

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      Christianity is an authoritarian death cult, maga are perfectly in line with what the religion really is.

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      This. They would never dare attend services in non-white churches and would be hostile to newcomers that appear “different” in their own communities. These folks quickly abandon the teachings of Jesus Christ to fight for “racial purity” hands down.

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      Everything you said is true, but the maga label narrows the context unnecessarily. It’s been the Republican MO for decades, and the Democrats have generally presented as less forceful christians. But it’s because it works on the people they target with it.

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      Ironically, MAGA makes me want to believe in christian religion. Bc they would all go straight to the boiler room in hell for eternity.

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        One of these will be pilloried and eventually destroyed. The other will blame the prior for all its bad actions, claim innocence and continue onwards

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          Anyone remember the “tea party” and all the people that were suddenly “Independents” after W’s popularity hit the skids? I wonder if it will be like that again?

          The R’s stand up another version of the “tea party”, people go to those rallies and talk about being “independents”…and run right back to the voting booth at the next possible chance to vote Republican, for whatever monster the Republicans find to run after Taco.

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          They are viewed as one in the same by sane people. Both garbage, both deserving of a quick and pitiful end.

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        There’s many, including those in dem leadership, who think maga is just a small part of gop and eventually it’ll go away and gop will go back to how it was.

        They don’t want to acknowledge or admit this is what gop has always been

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      Dude, the GOP = MAGA.

      The republicans that were around during bush 2 are gone. That party is gone. The problem is that people that consider themselves Republican like the politicians from that era and before, haven’t not realized that the modern GOP is the same in name only.

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        Those Republicans aren’t gone. They’re just Democrats now because the entire spectrum of political discourse in the US has shifted that far right.

        Remember when the Cheneys found themselves on the outs with the Republicans? Their alliance with Dems would have been utterly unthinkable 25 years ago, but look at them now. As Republicans move further right and Democrats keep trying to court “centrist” voters, all they’re doing is moving their party to the right.

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    Remember when they put out a document that told us that they were going to do this, and exactly how, and people ignored it or called it “propaganda”?

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    ““Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭41‬-‭46‬ If only more people who claimed to follow Christ read and listened to what Jesus actually had to say about the kinds of people they are persecuting.

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      This might be my new favorite bible quote.

      I’ve never had one before. I’ve been aware of a bunch. Maybe I would have chosen Austin 3:16 for a while as a smart ass teenager in the 90s. But now I have one and it’s this.

      Maybe it was intentional and maybe it was luck, but to me this brief passage reaches deep into kinds of things that make for happy vs miserable people.

      I can’t help but notice how Jesus pretty clearly points out that there is no hierarchy when it comes to caring for one another.

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        This is my favourite whenever people try to weaponise the Bible. Jesus said that he is the fulfilment of “the law and the prophets”, and even goes so far as to say some of the laws that were given were only because of how messed up the people of Israel were. If Jesus is the fulfilment of “the law and the prophets”, then what he says is authoritative over what is written in the Old Testament.

        As an aside, in the Old Testament “God’s wrath” is most often seen in the form of letting a nation destroy themselves (usually Israel) by doing whatever they want instead of what God instructed them to do, which essentially boils down to the verses I originally quoted. Usually that meant being conquered by another nation or famine. Some may say that same sort of thing is playing out for MAGA. The people claiming to represent God have been doing exactly the opposite of what he told them to do, and now they’re getting what they wanted but it’s destroying them.

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    This is such an interesting article, thanks for sharing :)

    In general, i’m pro-balkanization mostly because i don’t see a common future for the people in the US anymore, and splitting up the region into smaller communities might have the advantage that people can hold their representatives more directly liable, because they live closer-by.

    There’s lots of paternalistic Daddy talk these days that centers on the need to “protect the American people.”

    It would be good if the government actually protected the american people from economic hardship. A quarter of americans can’t find jobs who cover life’s needs, and the situation is gonna get much worse over the next 10 years due to automation and AI.

    In that sense, implementing a universal basic income would be good, though i’m not sure what the conservative speakers had in mind with that.

    According to most reports, his underlying message was reflected in a reckless refrain heard throughout the conference: “You can just do things!”

    You might have to.

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      If the USA will split up in the evangelical right and liberal left then you’ll end up with one super power, now unburdened by the anchor weight of the red states, and one theocratic third world banana republic dictatorship that will be unable to feed its own population

      At this point, is any red states even able to take care of itself without federal support?

      Either way, I’m all for it too, let these antisocial religious idiots suffer in their own little north korea corner, but be sure they won’t get any nukes as they’re very Apocalypse culty

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        Will there be refugee programs for those of us in red states? The second you give these fuckers Gilead, they’ll start culling LGBT people and life will get a lot worse for anyone with the wrong amount of melanin in their skin.

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        Part of the problem is that the divide is more urban vs rural than state by state. We might end up with dozens of city states with all the tech and money, but none of the staples of life and vast tracts of impoverished rural thocracies that can only survive by selling food and raw materials to the city states.

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        I imagine Texas, maybe, but it’s a gas station at that point I’d imagine as things that are different to that would probably want to leave.

        A lot of everywhere else would be a whole mess with progressive cities being screwed by the rest of the state with many of them leaving before the borders close and those that couldn’t being trapped in hell.