How do you backup important things you store in selfhosted clouds?
I’m currently thinking about hosting Ente myself for syncing all my pictures. Maybe also spinning up nextcloud for various other shared files. However, for me one main benefit of using services like iCloud is the mitigated risk of losing everything in case the hardware fails (and fire, theft, water-damages, …).
Do you keep regular updates on hosted services? Do you keep really important stuff on other providers? Do you have other failsafes?
PC: Veeam
Phone/general pics: Immich (both automatic and manual)
Some general phone files: Syncthing
The remaining stuff is on my NAS at home.
Off-site of the most important VMs and some infrastructure: Veeam Backup Copy to an external HDD I keep at my workplace (encrypted)-
Entropy is a law of our universe. All data wants to be lost given a long enough timeline and without attention.
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Divide your data into what you can’t do without and what you may not care about losing.
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Take a backup out of your hands, make it as automatic as possible.
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I sync to encrypted folders on Google drive then use msp360 cloud to automatically copy everything in that drive to another cheap cloud storage that is client side encrypted.
For the protection it gives me, it’s cheap.
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I have TrueNAS with 2x 6TB HDD’s in a ZFS Mirror
I plan on getting another 6TB drive, leave it at my parents and have it power on once a week and sync, so that if my house burns down I don’t lose everything
Obligatory: RAID is not a backup.
Borg from the server to the nas, aws glacier from the nas to offsite.
I use nextcloud and I love it.
You want to follow the 3-2-1 strategy: 3 copies of your data on at least 2 different forms of media, and 1 backup being off-line.
Off-site rather than offline, protecting against things like your house burning down.
Borg + hetzner backup storage (that supports Borg and rsync but I use Borg so my backups are encrypted)
I have 5 copies of all my files on 5 devices, synced using syncthing with staggered file versioning. 2 of those are with friends and family who let me put a thin client at their place.
To protect against me misconfiguring syncthing, or some bug deleting all copies, every 3 months I manually make a copy and put it on a hard drive into a fire resistant safe.
Need to give synthing a try
While impressive this seems like such a hassle to keep up
The manual copy is a bit annoying, but in the end it’s maybe 10 minutes of work. Start the transfer in the evening, it’s finished in the morning.
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Now this is solid!!
I use Backblaze personal/unlimited, and have for quite a while. A lot of the other storage options go by GB/price which is fine, but I have a ton of stuff that is irreplaceable such as my music collection of around 80k songs I converted out to flac, pictures, business docs, etc. I realize it’s not really in the selfhosted arena, but Backblaze works out for me. If you are backing up a lot of data, re-initializing multiple TB backups can be a chore. Backblaze has a program where you buy a 10 TB drive from them, they ship you your data, once transferred you can send the drive back for a full refund.
I rsync nightly to an old synology box. It’s in an out building, so if there’s a fire, it comes with me.
500 gigs in hdds i ripped of cable boxes all wired together an hooked up to my old thinkpad t470 running thunar
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I don’t follow the full 3-2-1 rule, but I did want some sort of offsite backup for my Nextcloud so I use Duplicity to back up my user data from Nextcloud, plus all my DockerCompose files that run my server, to an S3 bucket. Costs me like $2/mo. Way cheaper than google drive
I’m new/planning to get more into self hosting
I have a crappy NAS in the basement I archive to and copy my borg repos to.
Then I pay for a Dropbox style cloud service and I copy my borg archives there. It’s kind of janky but it’s cheap and works.
It really depends on how much you enjoy to set things up for yourself and how much it hurts you to give up control over your data with managed solutions.
If you want to do it yourself, I recommend taking a look at ZFS and its RAIDZ configurations, snapshots and replication capabilities. It’s probably the most solid setup you will achieve, but possibly also a bit complicated to wrap your head around at first.
But there are a ton of options as beautifully represented by all the comments.
I rsync to a storage box from Hetzner.