This needs to happen!!! The start of the rebels
Maybe it’s time for the Senate to start forming a Grand Army of the Republic?
I am sorry, as a an outsider looking in on the US, when I read that title, I burst out laughing out of pure disbelief, I mean holy shit, this is absolute insane.
Not on the judge’s part, but that this is actually needed.
I knew it was going to be bad when Trump won the second term, I realized it was going to be worse when I understood how much power was about to be given him, I had no idea he was actually going to dismantle law and order.
This is madness.
It sounds like that of a typical response to a school shooting; anything but addressing the core issue. Let’s put Kevlar on the judges…
Nobody would disagree. The problem is here though, and it needs to be dealt. At least these people intend to do something about it.
It sounds like the prequel to Snow Crash.
I mean, high speed food delivery is already an exceptionally common, and dangerous, line of pick-up work.
Yeah, but even in Snowcrash Hiro was still an actual employee.
Thats a good point.
So then uh, hooray, we’re in an even worse timeline.
Or they can take responsibility over their actions? Lol who am I kidding.
The courts can take responsibility over their actions? They seem to be doing most things right. Even the SC seems to be making the constitutional decision a lot of the time.
It’s the president that is stiring up his base against the courts when they rule he did something unconstitutional. And that happens almost every day.
They’re not doing anything about the president violating the constitution.
Nah, we need politicians to be able to feel fear, imo. If they never have to think “will this come back to haunt me?” then that’s going to enable a lot of awful shit.
Everything is fine. We’re completely fucked.
They should. Some minimal physical protection may be needed to meet, consider, decide and publish a decision (nothing more) if things get really bad.
If they can modify the US Marshals service get independence from the DoJ, that seems reasonable.
They still need Congress to fund it which seems unlikely.
If judges are being threatened by POTUS they need to issue an arrest warrant.
Deputize a citizens milita and arrest him.
Isn’t that what US Marshals are? Or do they mean specifically one not under control of the DOJ?
The second once, since the attorney general is a fascist.
Proposal would move security under judges’ control as justice department has vowed loyalty to president
It’s in the description… So yes, one under the control of the Judiciary, not the Executive.
Ah, thank you. Yeah, that makes sense. Good move.
Yes.
It is entirely possible at this point that the Marshalls could be ordered to arrest a Trump admin lawyer, who has been deemed being in criminal contempt of court, or some other LE official that’s been found to have committed a crime…
And then this person could then be defended by the Secret Service, or the other members of whichever armed LE group under the Executive branch…
We already have unnamed DOGE, ICE, DHS goons going around basically doing the reverse.
At somepoint, we could actually get an armed standoff or confrontation between two different groups of armed, federal personnel.
Its very uh… early 90s Russia, if you ask me.
What did it say in the article?
EDIT: for the non-historians among us, this was Ernst Röhm, head of the Nazi Brownshirts (SA), a paramilitary organization used to primarily cause havoc amongst the population and competing political parties, but also in charge of protection details for high ranking NSDAP officials, later replaced by the SS when Hitler had him murdered due to lack of trust.
Fun fact: historians call Hitler’s purge of Ernst Röhm and other brownshirts “The Night of the Long Knives”. Ironically enough, Hitler used that expression in a post-purge speech in which he claimed that Röhm had himself been planning a night of the long knives assassination of Hitler and other Nazi leaders. Quite unintentionally, the expression came to be used to describe Hitler’s actions.
As they should be scared. They are currently dismantling the United States… did they not think there would be ramifications?
Honestly, I have the impression that they don’t. The 1% already won the game of life, but they insist on doubling down and gambling the nation for…line go up?
The wealthy are addicts without restraint.
I’m sure there are a lot of court cases i don’t hear about but they seem to be siding with the constitution most of the time.
I have recently started to learn how to use a firearm, because it feels like that the US is headed for a 2nd Civil War. Hopefully the money and time spent on that turns out to be a silly reaction…but if asked, I will serve the Free States, be it as a soldier or court marshal. Trump and the GOP is a tremendous threat to me and the other innocents of America.
Can’t recommend a shotgun enough.
VR80. Semi-automatic 12 gauge, with magazines. If you live in a state like California, you can treat it as something like a split or lever action, which allows you to release the magazines. I figure semi-auto would be needed if combat becomes a thing, especially if drones start delivering pain. Shotguns are one of the more common options for anti-drone defense in Ukraine.
You would best serve the “Free States” by helping and protecting your family, friends, and community of like-thinking associates- firearms may be required.
Ah! Like this:
Dredd was my first thought too. My favorite Thatcher inspired comic.
So what happens if the thugs in the DoJ clash with this judicial security? Are they prepared to turn their weapons on the DoJ officers? If not, then this is only to protect judges from stochastic terrorism at the hands of tRump supporters. Dark passages up ahead, I fear.
The DOJ is subordinate to the Judiciary, regardless of what these assclowns are trying to cosplay.
The Judiciary is equal to Executive and Congress. That’s just a fucking fact. A Federal Judges ruling has the same weight as any bullshit Executive Order Trump can crap out on paper.
Those are only facts if someone enforces it at the business end of a weapon.
The DOJ is subordinate to the Judiciary
Maybe crack open a book on US government or read an encyclopedia article: Department of Justice is department of the executive branch. Historically, they started out as the federal government’s attorneys/prosecutors.
The judicial branch only has the federal courts, its judges, its administrators.
Maybe crack open a dictionary and understand what subordinate means.
If the Judicial Branch is equal to Executive, then any subordinate of the Executive is subordinate to the Judiciary.
Y’all gotta learn more.
Not how government works: they’re independent branches.
The only fact that matters is whose orders are the cops going to enforce.
That seems to matter little to this regime. So, I ask again, what happens when they clash? We saw them stage a situation and try to arrest sitting members of congress and a mayor. In a sane world, you are correct. We don’t live in that world so subordination doesn’t matter!
If they aren’t ready to put down fascist jackboots they aren’t gonna be able to do the job.
Which threats? The ones from the POTUS?
No, from the brownshirts who have been systematically threatening and murdering the judges and their families who oppose fascism.
Sure seems like they should start holding his administration accountable, right? RIGHT?
I think the US is in need of 3 capitals like in South Africa, one for each branch of government.
I was thinking that maybe the US could use three presidents - West, East, and Center, each heading up a major chunk of territory. SCOTUS could be expanded to have 50 justices, each state appointing a single justice to represent them on the supreme court. The presidents each could select a single head justice, whose job is to communicate the viewpoint of the executives, and to write up the conclusions that SCOTUS factions have reached.
That sort of thing should help maintain the intention of the Constitution, where branches - or rather, interests, constantly jockey against each other, thus being equal. The problem with our current politics is that too much power has been concentrated into the hands of too few people, essentially destroying the balance of branches.
West, East, and Center, each heading up a major chunk of territory
Fuck no. Don’t lump us minnesotans in with basically exclusively red shithole states.
Yeah I’m starting to think that a triumvirate is the way to go for the office of the president. Let’s have a head of state, a head of government, and a head of _____ idk. But the job is too intense for one individual and we need an escape hatch while also having stability. So we could impeach the head of state but keep the head of government so shit still gets done during that transition.
That’s been tried in a certain republic of the past, but the idea is fine generally.
Isn’t that what the states are for? The federal government is supposed to maintain basic security and then the states are supposed to do all of the actual societal work but it all seems to have fallen apart. To be honest it had fallen apart long before Trump.
Yes that’s how it’s supposed to work. People like to point at Trump but Trump would not have been able to do this were it not for the fact that every president before him has given itself more and more power. He’s simply an opportunist.
This is also the thing Republicans have been harping about for ages. They don’t want to tear down the federal government because they want people to die or because they’re “fascists”. They want to tear it down because its current iteration of it has far more power than was ever intended when the constitution was drafted and it empowers and makes tyranny possible.
The New Deal needs to be replaced with something new that decentralizes power from the federal government while keeping the social nets that were established.
That’s such an EU thing to do 😄
