• drhodl@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      Doing nothing, whilst being very shitty, is definitely better than doing active evil.

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        13 days ago

        This has been the rhetoric for 50 years.

        The last 50 years have lead to where we are now.

        It’s time for new rhetoric besides “well the best we can hope for is a steady decline instead of a drop!”

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      13 days ago

      Look into how democracy falls to fascism. One of the common traits is the far left and the center left fighting each other while a unified right takes control.

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        13 days ago

        And you choose to contribute to it instead of letting leftists have a turn after 50 years of stagnation.

        I’m done coddling the Neoliberals.

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          12 days ago

          There are two choices here. Cooperate with Neoliberals, or be ruled by Fascists. There is no third option. Neither the left nor Neoliberals have the numbers to beat them alone.

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            Yeah we did that already in 2016 and 2024 and it failed miserably

            It’s time for you to sit down shut up and vote with leftists this time.

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                12 days ago

                I voted for Obama, he was pretty good

                I voted for Bernie, then grit my teeth and voted for Hillary when the DNC rigged their own primaries that they afterward admitted to.

                Then I voted for biden

                Then Kamala

                This year is the first year I will 100% refuse to vote for another milquetoast Neoliberal that will ensure nothing will meaningfully change.

                This year the neoliberals get to decide if we have democracy or facism.

                Either help us end the Duopoly or get out of the way.

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                    A slow and steady decline is not sustainable.

                    The can is at the end of the road.

                    It’s time for non establishment leadership.

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      13 days ago

      Well if you want fascists to keep winning you have to right attitude.

      We have well over 50 years of evidence that attempts at top down change always backfire. If you don’t want weak willed beholden people being nominated for leadership roles. Focus on filling all the offices beneath them with people who aren’t.

      Even had Sanders made it into office. He would have struggled continuously to accomplish anything with all the people underneath him.

      It is a literal yet unfortunate fact that we must hold our noses and vote for anyone who stands a chance at beating a Republican in a national presidential election. Until such time as the parties have been taken over by people who wouldn’t nominate someone like that.

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        This already happened in 2016, why am i the only one who remembers?!?!

        Supporting one side of the Duopoly keeps us in the Duopoly forever.

        Get over the democratic party, many already have

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          I’m an anarchist, but can acknowledge reality. Stop spouting nonsense and get over yourself. The rest of us have.

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            Nah this time the Neoliberals can get with the program or get out of the way.

            Or do you hate democracy?

            How are you gonna save democracy unless you vote for the people I tell you to vote for?