With Gavin Newsom, a Charlie Kirk podcast guest, the choice in 2028 might be two fascists.
We lost to Nixon and it got worse. We lost to Regan and it got worse. We lost to two different Bushes and it got worse. Now we’ve lost to Trump twice and it got worse.
The throughline is that we keep losing to the greater evil and suffering the consequences of things getting worse as a result. That includes worse choices next time as the Democrats move to the right to chase the people who vote for the greater evil. As opposed to going for people who don’t vote or throw away their vote to a third party.
The Democratic Party is going to be rightwing until people learn we have to vote in addition to everything else to get Democrats to move to the left. They will only think about moving left if they win elections. And they only move left when they think they have enough voters to win when they do move.
If we, leftists, want better choices in 50 years we have got to vote in records numbers, so if Democrats get their act together and get someone half-way decent they win. And when they do, they see a leftist voter block got them there.
So you’re saying even if we lose again and again, we have to keep trying and hold onto hope? No way, man! Giving up and leaving our friends for dead is the leftist choice. Actually trying is neoliberalism
Those wins are we how we got gay marriage. After decades of activism queer people won rights. It took time and effort and consistently turning out for elections. And a ton of shifting the culture through the media people consumed. But the voting is a mechanical necessity to bring that result about. There’s no way around it. We need to vote for the furthest left Democrats we can.
That’s what I’m saying, man! I must have turned off the oven when I was done cooking a hundred times. And the very first time I don’t turn the oven off, it starts a fire. So what good did turning the oven off do?
If you turn off the oven and it still catches on fire, that’s not a you problem, that’s a problem with the oven. No amount of turning the knob will make it safe.
Yeah, it’s a manufacturer defect. Yesterday I made lasagna and turned it off when I was done. But today I made brownies and didn’t turn off the oven, and now my house is charred rubble! I’m suing the oven manufacturer
I mean in your tortured metaphor, it’s no error, it’s explicitly a feature put there by the manufacturer. The guys who put the constitution together all agreed, democratic government should represent the wealthy land-owning elite and do as much as it can to capture and dissipate any broadly popular political movement from the classes below them. The shape and nature of the ruling class it works for has changed a little, but its still fundamentally that same system.
With Gavin Newsom, a Charlie Kirk podcast guest, the choice in 2028 might be two fascists.
We lost to Nixon and it got worse. We lost to Regan and it got worse. We lost to two different Bushes and it got worse. Now we’ve lost to Trump twice and it got worse.
The throughline is that we keep losing to the greater evil and suffering the consequences of things getting worse as a result. That includes worse choices next time as the Democrats move to the right to chase the people who vote for the greater evil. As opposed to going for people who don’t vote or throw away their vote to a third party.
The Democratic Party is going to be rightwing until people learn we have to vote in addition to everything else to get Democrats to move to the left. They will only think about moving left if they win elections. And they only move left when they think they have enough voters to win when they do move.
If we, leftists, want better choices in 50 years we have got to vote in records numbers, so if Democrats get their act together and get someone half-way decent they win. And when they do, they see a leftist voter block got them there.
So you’re saying even if we lose again and again, we have to keep trying and hold onto hope? No way, man! Giving up and leaving our friends for dead is the leftist choice. Actually trying is neoliberalism
Add a /s please to jokes like that, my heart needs it
The accelerationists unironically believe that!
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We elected Carter and it got worse, we elected Clinton and it got worse, we elected Obama and it got worse, we elected Biden and it got worse.
The throughline is that we keep beating the greater evil and suffering the consequences of things getting worse as a result.
Those wins are we how we got gay marriage. After decades of activism queer people won rights. It took time and effort and consistently turning out for elections. And a ton of shifting the culture through the media people consumed. But the voting is a mechanical necessity to bring that result about. There’s no way around it. We need to vote for the furthest left Democrats we can.
I put out half of the fires that started in my kitchen, but my house still burned down! Putting out fires is a sucker’s game.
If even after putting out fire the house burns down you do have to cut your loses and let the house burn down.
That’s what I’m saying, man! I must have turned off the oven when I was done cooking a hundred times. And the very first time I don’t turn the oven off, it starts a fire. So what good did turning the oven off do?
If you turn off the oven and it still catches on fire, that’s not a you problem, that’s a problem with the oven. No amount of turning the knob will make it safe.
Yeah, it’s a manufacturer defect. Yesterday I made lasagna and turned it off when I was done. But today I made brownies and didn’t turn off the oven, and now my house is charred rubble! I’m suing the oven manufacturer
I mean in your tortured metaphor, it’s no error, it’s explicitly a feature put there by the manufacturer. The guys who put the constitution together all agreed, democratic government should represent the wealthy land-owning elite and do as much as it can to capture and dissipate any broadly popular political movement from the classes below them. The shape and nature of the ruling class it works for has changed a little, but its still fundamentally that same system.