The dems are literally rolling over for fascism. They are complicit.
Its been over a year and people still are freaking out about this? And not the fact that the democrats have basically rolled over at every turn to trump and the GOPs demands?
The dems did not do s good job mobilizing their voter base. A bunch of people didnt like genocide. A bunch of people didnt like Biden. A bunch of people held their nose and voted for him the first time when he said he would get rid of student loans and be a one term president. He reneged on almost every single promise he made. He then committed genocide. People didnt like it. The DNC shoved him and Kamala down everyone’s throats instead of having an actual election. They’ve fucked themselves 3 cycles in a row now and then start complaining about socialists.
They were all vote blue no matter who when it was Biden or Kamala but now Mamdani won in NY and they’re all teaming up with the Republicans to stop him. Maybe thats why they keep fucking losing - they dont want to listen to their own base.
What do regular people want? Higher taxes on the rich, more affordable housing and food, Healthcare for all, and good education. All they’ve done is say well this will hurt billionaires feelings so we cant do it.
You know how before the elections we say that it’s not the time to nitpick the Democratic Party because it’s more important to have it win so that the fascist won’t win?
Well, now we are not before elections, which means that now it is the time to nitpick the Democratic Party.
I would usually agree with you, but your argument died with the Democratic Party “moderates” refusing to compromise in NY too.
I would usually agree with you, but your argument died with the Democratic Party “moderates” refusing to compromise in NY too.
Fucking what
The DNC establishment is refusing to support Mamdani after he won the primaries, and many are propping up campaigns dividing the left. So they don’t want to rally everyone against the Republicans, and pretending they do is a bold faced lie.
As a New Yorker…who gives a fuck?
You do understand that “DNC support” just means advertising money, right?
Our nation needs to stop blaming Big Lettuce for their lack of salad ads while they get fat on McDonald’s every day. Stop rewarding the candidates with the financial means to find you in your living room and research the candidates on your ballot.
The DNC establishment is refusing to support Mamdani after he won the primaries
Mamdani is currently courting endorsements from top Dem players, many of whom have spoken positively of Mamdani but refrained from an explicit endorsement at this time. Their failure to immediately jump into endorsing a clearly popular candidate who won the primaries is damning on a personal level, but far from “The DNC is refusing to compromise!” at this juncture.
Also, see the two points of the edit.
The problem, in my mind:
republicans/regressives (read nazis) actually get in line and vote for the R next to any name that they’ve heard in the last week (if not just because it has an R), which means that they actually get shit done (making things worse, but they all get behind it is my point).
On the other hand, democrats/leftists/progressives all sit here and fight one another because of reasons, some good, and some just a little silly in the grand scheme of things. This group doesn’t know how to effectively work together to slowly and surely get to the same end goal.
The differences here are why regressives are able to rat fuck an entire nation, collectively, because they don’t bicker with each other, their allies, about the smaller details.
The democrats/leftists/progressives are too busy trying to fight hundreds of different problems/battles that would all be solved (eventually, mind you, not right away like we wish it would be) by banding together and keeping the movement momentum going AFTER winning the election.
For an example, gaza and trans rights issues. Both VERY valid issues, and they should be discussed. What happened was those same groups focused way too much on the smaller details instead of the big picture. What SHOULD have happened was we voice our concerns on the issues, vote for the person (at this time, Harris) who had the highest chance of those issues being solved, and then keeping the fire going by continuing to press these concerns to THAT administration.
Look at it this way, even though it is too late: if Kamala had won, you’d be able to sit there and protest any actions that weren’t being made towards your/your groups issues, and if we could all get on the same god damned page, you would have more allies who are more at ease with the current admin who could protest with you, because things aren’t dire enough for them to focus on them and theirs (read fuck you, got mine). Under the orange buffoon, you can now get deported for protesting anything, let alone trans rights and gaza genocide. So, those allies you could’ve had are now being deported, killed, or arrested, and that makes others scared to protest with you.
TL;DR: Allowing the nazis to win because democrats/leftists/progressives can’t see the bigger picture, and choose to focus on their own issues only (or at the very least, make it their highest priority when we should know that’s not how it works, unfortunately) is the reason we have the orange shitler in office right now. This group is trying to fight 100 different battles, while regressives lock step and take away all the good we had achieved, instead of banding together and just doing the literal bare minimum (vote in the “neo-lib”). Full stop.
@PugJesus@lemmy.world is right, whether you like it or not.
This is such a tired narrative. You guys really want to focus on the leftists when half the country voted for an authoritarian?
Every movement has its radical fringe. Virtue signaling either your ideological purity or your solidarity with the only viable opposition are equally feeble attempts at clinging to a notion of victory in the face of total defeat.
I don’t get it. First the centrists were called leftist, just because they are left of right. Now stalinists are considered leftist, even though they have way more in common with fascists than even the centrists.
I can explain! Reality is whatever OP needs it to be so that they are right and you are wrong.
I can promise that non-harm reduction leftists who aren’t Stalinists outnumber those who are.
I do think “vote blue not matter who” has shown that the current establishment will happily hold the transgendered community hostage to sell out the working class.
Just because people’s deaths are only aggregated in statistics. People who die because of a lack of healthcare or commit suicide because of their economic situation, doesn’t mean its not also important to fight for. Doesn’t make as good of a headline though.
It’s like no one remembers how relatively left the Dems have moved in the past 30 fucking years.
You are completely hallucinating.
Kamala embraced Trump’s border wall, Biden didn’t do anything when Netanyahu crossed his “red line”, and Obama bailed out the banks while carrying the torch from Bush by conducting the most drone strikes out of any other president.
The Democrats have started moving Right starting in the 1990s, not left.
Dems haven’t moved left since FDR.
Sorry that you have no memory of Dem policy since the 1990s and how it differs from today, I hope your ability to process events in the past returns.
so, do you have any specific examples?
Ultimately, it would be more productive for the center to yell at the establishment for supporting corruption and unpopular policies rather than turning left.
Look at how much more vitriol there was for a leftist mayoral candidate from the establishment than there was towards the leaders who do nothing while a dictator consolidates power. Apparently, its fine not to vote for a democrat if you personally think it will cause tons of economic damage in this case, but not the other.
The entire NY mayor “controversy” has been astronomically blown out of proportion by bad actors. The vast majority of Democratic voters in the rest of the country don’t give a fuck one way or the other. But it looks great for the Republicans if the Democrats are in-fighting, and on Lemmygrad it looks great if the “establishment” Democrats are losing (never mind that Mamdani would get bodied 100x worse than Kamala on a national stage).
im like a rabid coyote frothing at the mouth ready to bite conservative freaks and goobery tankies
OP admits that they would cast a vote to put trans people in camps if the situation was right. This meme is ridiculous coming from a person like that.
It’s a little late now that there’s camps, sure. If people had refused harder to put up with shitty democrats in the past, like… decades past… then the dems would’ve lost to past republicans who weren’t quite dictators.
In that alternate past where the dems actually lose for being center-right corporatists, they would’ve had to get some kind of spine or plan or… something… earlier to protect our public news and education from authoratarian misinformation and maybe prevented this bullshit.
In this current world that we actually have though… I mean you saw we elected Biden, right? And you saw how much good that did – right? We need somebody on our side with some teeth and rolling over for milquetoast donation collectors is not going to get it for us.
That feeling when Democrats are turning on trans people. Pretending the Democrats will save us as a Fool’s errand. Pretending that trans people wouldn’t be on the chopping block if the Democrats had federal office is naive.
Some Democrats, reeling from Republican attacks tying their party to transgender rights issues, are privately furious at their leaders and explicitly warning they need a better strategy going into 2026.
Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/13/democrats-moderates-transgender-issues-strategy-00189123
“not voting because the dems are complicit” was always gop propaganda to keep people from voting dem
the problem is that seemingly all of the news channels are owned by the gop and whoever they bought. that makes people manipulated. what to do about that?
They’d rather rail against Israel while helping to elect Trump than lift a finger to help their fellow citizens.
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