Remember when we called out Biden’s health and were called useful idiots, and it was a big lie pushed for by the media?
And now they’re selling a book based in that reality. I guess when you notice things for free that’s propaganda, but when you can sell it that’s factual media.
Solidarity. They shall never be allowed to forget and the should never be allowed to live down the material damage they did to this community, and that effectively, they were the useful idiots who handed the office of president to Trump, by insisting on strategies and tactics that were doomed to fail.
centrists still have zero understanding about this.
I think they have a kind of understanding.
The understand that they are wrong, and that the consequence of their wrongness is Trumpism. However, they also understand that if they were to acknowledge that they are wrong, they would lose power.
For people like this, its more about maintaining individual power, than it is opposing fascism. Its the same for the apologists.
They understand it completely, they just want to gaslit people into thinking its sane to support people who are actively hurting the ideas they swear to uphold.
Yeah while progressives keep bitching that their even older guy lost a primary ten years ago and somehow think they’re doing something.
Because the DNC tipped the scales in the favor of policies that wouldn’t work against Trump, yes he lost. They did it twice. And he still supported them in the fight because he wanted Trump to lose. Bernie did more speeches for Hillary than he did for himself. Bernie still supported her, Biden, and Harris.
And where’s Hillary and Harris? Hiding after losing to the biggest moron in the history of the US, that makes Dubya look like a grandmaster 5D chess player.
Where’s Bernie? Doing protests, doing speeches, gathering people to stop Trump still.
Bernie’s best years are far behind him.
Also the voters rejected Harris and Clinton but do you want them to… what exactly?
Yes, he’s old and still fighting.
And according to you, Bernie is unpopular because no one voted for him. He’s still going out and about.
Harris and Clinton were unpopular, and they’re doing…?
So is Bernie unpopular? Why is he drawing crowds and trying to fight Trump, drawing in more crowds than either of Trump’s inaugurations or any speeches? And if Harris is unpopular, why isn’t she doing the same?
Trump took over the United States and Bernie’s out rallying.
It’s nowhere near the same.
Right, Trump is in control of the US. Trump is actively tearing apart the government. He’s somehow busy wrecking everything and still whining on Twitter or Truth Social about how everything bad with tarrifs is Biden’s fault and everything good despite Trump is his success.
Bernie is still fighting despite his party not being in the majority. Bernie is still doing rallies.
Harris isn’t in any office, Bernie is. Clinton isn’t in any office, Bernie is. Same with AOC. Out there doing national rallies to build numbers to at least get a voice of “Let’s end Trump.” They haven’t left office.
Bernie is actively at least showing up to his job, and still finding time to go outside and do things. How does this invalidate my statement? Bernie is helping, Harris is doing nothing. Bernie is trying to gather people to stop Trump, Clinton isn’t doing anything.
Even now we’re being downvoted by the people who are still in denial of Biden’s self admitted health and failures.
I love all the broken clock mfs in here. I’ll concede that everyone, including myself, thought he (and trump) were too old to be running because they’re both mentally declining in different ways.
We didn’t know of any obvious major health issues with Biden. He had a shit debate and everyone suddenly acts like they knew something was wrong other than just getting old, being propped up on cold meds or whatever the official excuse was. Prostate cancer doesn’t cause these symptoms.
That said, the big question would be whether or not it was known he had cancer and was getting treatment for it, the effects of treatment certainly would be hard on someone mentally, their mental capabilities, and physically. Hiding that shit and running him for office again would be fucked up.
We didn’t know of any obvious major health issues with Biden. He had a shit debate and everyone suddenly acts like they knew something was wrong other than just getting old, being propped up on cold meds or whatever the official excuse was. Prostate cancer doesn’t cause these symptoms.
Sure, no one would have known about the prostate cancer, but plenty of people had been questioning Biden’s mental fitness since 2020, and they were called ageist by pundits. Stewart himself was accused of aiding Trump for running a segment on Biden’s strange mental gaffes just weeks before the debate. If people like Tapper had been doing their jobs instead of deferring to the administration, we would have had answers, not questions.
Yep, I strongly remember being called a useful idiot for wanting a better canidate than Biden after the horrid debate performance, with every time being deflected to “But did you see Trump?? Clearly Biden can stop him now!!”
If Jon fucking Stewart was called ageist and a Russian bot because he accurately saw that Biden was not doing too well, its no wonder people called other fellow humans that too. I’m not shocked Apollo is trying to lie by omission of “We didn’t know of any obvious major health issues with Biden” besides being in the most stressful job in America and being the oldest person in that poisition.
But instead Biden went on “full” steam ahead, only keeping to his one term promise when internal polling showing he’d lose to Trump by 400 EC votes.
It’s just bizarre how much drama around Bidens declining health, which is normal for a person of his age. But not a single peep about massive corruption by Trump, dismissal of laws and actual criminal shit like sexual assault of women.
Beacuse:
- Trump is a evil moron, we know this. We’ve known this since 2016. Anyone who doesn’t know this is willfully ignorant or supportive of it.
- Biden was supported to be better than Trump, and covering up things like “I am a mortal man, health goes down when you age” is literally what Trump did with his medical report.
Trump is worse, that does not excuse having a bad track record.
“Worse”.
There isn’t even a word to describe how much worse…
The bar is in hell, and Trump is limboing with the devil.
Hell, my wife was watching an episode of Designing Women and I overheard them shitting on trump. That episode was aired back in 91. Pretty sure his tendency toward fuckery was established once he became known.
Trump has always been the butt of a joke, Biff Tennan in Back to the Future 2 is based on Trump. Rosie O’Donald had a famous beef with him. He has always been known as a shithead.
When he announced his candidacy, my mom laughed out loud because she hoped this would be impossible and backfire in his face. She knew his stick for decades at that point. One of her rare times of being right the entire time, as her son.
Also follow up that I forgot, I was watching Northern Exposure, at some point in season 2, the conservative former-astronaut character said that Trump was a reason to excuse his actions. This aired in the 90s as well.
Pretty sure Stewart’s point is exactly that. They’re putting out a book now to have “content” instead of going after trump for the real content. Like Puppy-Killer Noem, his secretary of Homeland Security not knowing Habeas Corpus. or, blatantly stating the exact opposite before a congressional hearing.
the stuff in CNN’s book was news years ago- and they talked about it years ago, too. CNN is complicit
I think his point was more that politicians are just so used to coverups and lying that they do it even when it’s right in front of our faces. We could see for our own eyes that Biden was unfit to run, but were gaslit up until the debate when he stood down.
And the same things are all true of Trump; we can see with our own eyes how unqualified he is, but everyone insists on pretending otherwise.
This!
Both of my parents have dementia. I have relatives that died after living with dementia for a while.
Biden’s level of dementia takes 3-6 years to reach that point. There is no way people around him and higher ups in democratic party didn’t know he had dementia.
I am deeply sorry to hear about your parents, that is a horrid disease and I hope they can be peaceful.
There is no way people around him and higher ups in democratic party didn’t know he had dementia.
Oh they knew, I suspect that if Biden won, the cabinet would have used the 25th Amendment and put Harris in control. Not the worst plan in the world, but a stupid one.
Yeah. I feel like almost everyone misunderstands Jon. He calls out shitty government behavior.
Republicans being a bursting cornucopia are statistically certain to spend more time in his sights, but Jon has never given Dems a “pass”. Also, his monologues aren’t just “Republicans dumb”, they’re incredibly informative about how the systems are supposed to work. He sneaks in legitimate government literacy lessons. Jon is a genius of our time.
This is what every other comedian trying to be Jon… Even on the tonight show, doesn’t seem to have internalized.
Jon deserved a break… But his original retirement left such a void.
I feel like almost everyone misunderstands Jon. He calls out shitty government behavior.
I remember when Jon wanted Biden to drop out after his poor debate performance, and people said he was being unfair because he [checks notes] wanted Trump to lose.
Or they were rightfully worried that changing course that late in the game would have consequences.
Biden should not have run in the first place. Speaking up that he should step aside like 2 months before the general is not the time to do it, all that does is sow further dissention.
And look how that turned out.
Biden had internal polls showing he would lose and Trump would have 400 EC votes. That’s a bigger loss than Harris had later that year. That’s why he dropped out (along with pressure from the donor class.)
Really well until it was Harris saying she was just going to do everything Biden told her form off stage and dismissed the pain if the average citizen?
Dude, if Biden had run it would be super majority for republicans.
Democrats own internal polling showed that Trump was going to win 400+. This is why Nancy Pelosi picked up to phone and started pressuring him to drop.
Don’t bother, Biden stans don’t listen to the news, they think its all a grand conspiracy like Trump supporters.
Jon Stewart, in particular, talks about Trump’s corrupt and illegal activities on a regular basis and has been doing so for a long time.
“But you see he also had moral consistency and called out Biden’s issues, therefore he’s guilty of enabling Trump!”
Wow, this thread is full of Russian bots and Trump supporters. Biden is the picture of health, extremely spry and cognizant, personally, I thought he handled himself very well in the debates, despite the media attacking him unfairly over his stutter. Regardless, he’s the nominee, whether you like him or not, no amount of complaining will change that. He’s the lesser evil so we’re stuck with him and you just have to vote for him, unconditionally.
There’s actually a really fun followup missing where they talk about how Harris gives them hope that they didn’t have with Biden and how they can finally see victory.
But I could see how we would miss that because it was a really brief window before we actually just return to above because “now is not the time to be voicing opinions to your leaders and telling them what you want from their potential win to get your vote” and they went right back to we needed cult like following of Biden because we can all agree Harris offered nothing.
What the whole Biden situation boils down to is this: At no point in history has a Presidential candidate ever been replaced as late in the campaign as the 2024 campaign was by the time people started seriously calling for Biden to step aside (i.e. after the debate.) The only close equivalent was in 1968, when Lyndon B. Johnson declined to run much earlier in the campaign, and it still resulted in a victory for Richard Nixon. Still, when confronted with a choice between fascism and not-fascism, many people (including many of the people in this very thread) decided to devote all their effort to throwing stones at the not-fascism side.
When Biden did finally step aside, surprise surprise, it resulted in a victory for fascism. Congratulations.
Biden staying in the race would have been 400 EC votes to Trump, a bigger margin than Harris v Trump did.
And even if Biden won, he has stage 4 prostate cancer that has metastasized to his bones, it would be a miracle even with top treatment if he lives to see the end of Trump’s current term.
If they did and the article was posted to this community it would’ve been buried by downvotes
Like you and I are right now, amazing how they prove themselves right for every criticism and complaint. If we said any of this 4 months ago, we would have been banned and called bots.
People lack any introspection. It’s a wonder we made it as a species this long and call ourselves clever. More just cockroaches of the mammal class.
It is a little funny they downvote to show that they wouldn’t have downvoted this.
And they removed my comment about documenting their doublethink. Why write jokes when they do it themselves?
