It seems like it should be sort of a priority for the fediverse to create a high quality alternative to Facebook, which is one of the largest platforms out there, and probably what a lot of people think of when they think of “social media”, and yet, the marketing and overall adoption of Friendica is simply abysmal, to put it bluntly.

Issue 1: The super bland and basic on-boarding.

When you visit the main website for friendica, you are greeted with “friendica: a decentralized social media network” followed by a “try it” button. Then when you scroll down, there is basic black text on a white background, explaining things like decentralization, privacy, and interoperability. Do you think that this sort of intro is really going to draw people in? It gives off the vibe of “it is your birthday”, a la dwight from the office.

If you click on the “try it” button, you get scrolled to a part of the site that says “Try Friendica” with two sentences that basically say “this website is really complex overall, but don’t worry, you can click another button below to browse a list of servers (yes, servers, we are not explaining what that means, just click the button)”. The actual server list has a single filter option, language, and if you filter by english, the top server right now is a furry server. If any normie has somehow managed to get this far, they are sure to nope the fuck out at this point.

Assuming you do manage to get past this point, the actual sign up form has way too much information for the average person. The first field is “openID”. I’m sure that’s useful for those who use it, but why is it the first field? There is also a check box to be added to the public directory, which is checked no by default. What does this mean? It is certainly not explained here. You’re not asking for a password? Why not? Oh, because you are making a random password for me I have to copy and paste and then save or change. That’s not inconvenient at all. Yet another step of friction for me.

Compare this on-boarding process to other sites on the fediverse. Mastodon has a catchy and succinct explainer on why their site is worth joining followed by a “join mastodon.social” button, or a “pick another server” button. If you go to the servers button, you get several different filtering options, region, interest, sign up process, legal structure, and very notably, a disclaimer that all of these servers have signed a safety agreement. Upon signing up, you first agree to some terms of service, which is very reassuring for those looking for a safe and welcoming platform, followed by entering username, e-mail, password and date of birth. All very straight forward. Lemmy is similarly streamlined and polished, and you don’t even need an e-mail to sign up for some servers. Super easy and convenient.

Issue 2: Terrible mascot.

Mastodon has their mastodon carrying a knapsack. Lemmy has the lemming face. Pixelfed has a cute red panda. Friendica has…some kind of demented looking rabbit with bugged out eyes? Seriously, what the hell is this?

Issue 3: Super basic blog style website.

As alluded to in issue 1, the website is super basic, with almost no polish to it. It looks like someone made it on wordpress. The home page does have some clip art type images and background stuff thrown in here and there, but outside of that, it looks very unprofessional. Again, comparing to sites like Mastodon and Lemmy, which have much more polished and professional looking web design. The clearly put time into making sure new users get a good impression. Friendica puts almost no effort whatsoever.

So these three issues, just from an outsiders glance, are in my opinion some of the biggest things holding back what could potentially be one of the most used sites on the fediverse, at least on the marketing side of things. I do not know how the overall team behind the site is structured, but suffice to say, it needs work.

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    Guys, it’s time to accept the Fediverse apps and websites are not meant to and never will be a replacement for mainstream social media. They are meant for a hobbyist and activist audience.

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      Let’s stop with the slacktivism and start putting money on the table, and professionals of all specialties will show up and change this reality.

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        3 days ago

        I was not meaning it in a fatalist way. Precursors are important, but should not turn into the big product themselves.

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          But you’re not saying it’s just “precursors” - it sounded like you were saying the fediverse will never become mainstream. Never is a long time, I would say.

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      I honestly consider that to be a feature, not a bug.

      Reddit, Facebook, Twitter etc. all started out great, then grew so large that they lost all their magic.

      Why should we try to speed run that process with the Fediverse?

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        Was the smallness the magic? For me, I did not notice or care about the size. It was about personal connections first and foremost. The feed was full of your friends posts, and nothing else. Then they all started going all in algorithms, trending/engagement, advertisements, bots, and AI, and it all went to shit. In other words, corporate profit seeking is what ruined it, not the size.

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        That’s true, it is built on the work of open source precursors, but it is not an open source product in itself.

        Another comparison should be Mastodon vs Bluesky.

        For Reddit and Facebook, something similar is still pending.

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          The Reddit-style text-based forums are becoming more and more of a niche market.

          People nowadays scroll videos on TikTok and IG, almost nobody is using Reddit itself

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              How many people do you know IRL who are not in tech and use Reddit ?

              Personally everyone I know is on TT/IG, only the tech people are on Reddit

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                I do not think that is accurate. I know plenty of non-tech people using reddit for a variety of things. Everything from music to personal advice to fashion, interior decorating, and food. It is far from a tech only forum. Very few people I know use tiktok. Instagram is definitely used mostly by normies, I will give you that.

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      That is pretty depressing then. I always viewed the fediverse and activitypub as a transformative technology that could reshape the state of corporate control of the internet. What you are saying that that will never happen and we should just basically give up.

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        They are trailblazers for sure, but I don’t think they should be made into full blown mega corpoi, that is not the philosophy of open source apps.