• ladicius@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    There’s research that found that people without children are happier than people with children.

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      17 days ago

      Sounds like a kind of crazy blanket statement for actual researchers to make but then again sociology research… well…

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        17 days ago

        Why is it crazy? It seems like the most sensible conclusion - no kids reduces stress significantly. Maybe in a world without need it’d be the other way around, but we don’t live in a post-scarcity society, do we?

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          17 days ago

          Because it’s a simplistic blanket statement about a very complex issue. You think you can take a single factor “kids = stress” and that’s that?

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            No, but I do believe that complex issues with many factors can be boiled down into simpler averages. Besides, “stress” is just as multifaceted of an issue as anything else! It implies nothing about the root causes.

            Moreover, this research article did not say “if you have kids, you will be miserable”. That is a personal choice you should make for personal reasons. Some people are happier with kids! But it’s also true that childless adults are on average happier.

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            17 days ago

            So nobody can arrive at any conclusions about complex topics? That’s like saying we can’t quantify global warning because climate science is complex.

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          17 days ago

          I’m trying to imagine applying this logic to anything else.

          Telling a friend not to try out for the baseball team, because playing baseball will increase your stress. Warning my sister not to watch a scary movie, because evidence shows they cause fear and discomfort. Breaking off a date with a cutie, because I’ve got butterflies and I don’t want to feel anxious.

          What do these sociologists think about rollercoasters or car races or heavy metal concerts, I wonder?

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            17 days ago

            You’re trying to incorrectly put words in scientist’s mouths here.

            They did not say that a person should not have children.

            They merely said that on average, people who don’t have children are happier.

            If people could accidentally find themselves trapped in a heavy metal concert, (just like people accidentally find themselves stuck being parents), you’d find a similar conclusion - people who don’t go to heavy metal concerts are happier. But it turns out that concerts are elective, so the effect is unlikely to be present in real life for concerts.

            This has nothing to do with the “goodness“ of concerts or parenthood - both of them are awesome when the people doing them chose to do it!

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    Can’t even escape this by being queer - I’m mid 30s and about half of my straight couple friends have kids now, none of the queer couples do, and yet we’re still asked about it sometimes, it’s so odd.

    Fortunately all my siblings have at least one now so finally my mum’s stopped asking…