OP just fyi but i think that somehow reducing the human population by 99.99%, leaving around a million or so, would not be the worst thing ever for hardcore environmentalism.
So however way society collapsed or for whatever reason, the ensueing starvation of billions due to collapsing fertilizer and fuel supply chains, is the fantasy.
It’s the most high-casualty course of events possible under most circumstances, yes. Sorry that the ample evidence of the past 200 fucking years hasn’t made that clear enough for you?
Is that true though? I mean I just did a mental review of collapses that came to mind and not even the USSR resulted in mass deaths? I mean the mass deaths were for causes the led to the collapse of the USSR but the actual collapse was not what caused the deaths.
Unless you mean that the new order that takes the place of the one before is the one that causes mass casualties because that does seem to be the usual case. No one actually falls in line with the ideology that wants to dominate, which I guess is your greater point.
The deaths are already happening under the current ideology and are endless until stopped.
Oh cool, that’s totally a real and valid reason to embrace murdering as many people as possible.
OP just fyi but i think that somehow reducing the human population by 99.99%, leaving around a million or so, would not be the worst thing ever for hardcore environmentalism.
So however way society collapsed or for whatever reason, the ensueing starvation of billions due to collapsing fertilizer and fuel supply chains, is the fantasy.
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Who’s planning on murdering as many people as possible? Seems like someone writing a fantasy villain and not at all related to reality.
Trump defunding USAID will kill 14 million people. I call that murder.
Thank you for confirming you have no fucking idea what happens when a society collapses.
People start murdering as many people as possible??? Is that what happens?
It’s the most high-casualty course of events possible under most circumstances, yes. Sorry that the ample evidence of the past 200 fucking years hasn’t made that clear enough for you?
Is that true though? I mean I just did a mental review of collapses that came to mind and not even the USSR resulted in mass deaths? I mean the mass deaths were for causes the led to the collapse of the USSR but the actual collapse was not what caused the deaths.
Unless you mean that the new order that takes the place of the one before is the one that causes mass casualties because that does seem to be the usual case. No one actually falls in line with the ideology that wants to dominate, which I guess is your greater point.
Somalia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan (thrice), Sudan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, South Sudan, Yemen…
Yes. It’s very true.
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Ah my western bias is showing! You are right.
Lets see those numbers!
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What are you even arguing about.
“Present situation bad” is not a fucking reason to advocate for the collapse of society, which literal millions of people will die in the course of.
I didn’t realize that I had to fucking trace out that the collapse of society is bad, but I guess the OP was just too subtle.
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