All those Iranian citizens who think the U.S. is doing this for them… They’re about to find out the hard way what putting your trust in the U.S. is like, let alone Trump. You would think they’d learn from the last time.
Nobody thinks this. Lemmy users need to stop being racist like this. Iranians are not stupid, these people have agency. They know what a war with the US means, they had two of their neighbors go through it. They know it’s hell, but the thing is that the regime right now is so cartoonishly evil that if a war loosens their grip on power and opens up a real possibility for a new government, then it might just be worth it.
I’m Iraqi. My family lived through the terror of Saddam Hussein. The US invasion was hell. It destabilized the country and a lot of people died. Nobody recalls that time as a good one. Yet, at the same time, you’ll be hard pressed to any Iraqi that wishes the US didn’t depose of that evil regime.
He is 100%. The difference is that Trump rules the US, not Iran. For Iranians, anything that can realistically help them get rid of their oppressors is a glimmer of hope that cling on to even if the odds aren’t that great.
The issue with that is that’s how they got into this mess the first time. And the midterms are coming, Kamala lost on Palestine. I don’t mean to be a dick but the timing seems very similar…
I wholeheartedly disagree with this. You grossly overestimate how much people care about Palestine. The vast, vast majority don’t care, it’s very much down on the list of priorities for most people, including the ones who vote Democrat. Kamala lost for 3 reasons:
Biden lied about being a one term president, the Democrats refused to have primaries, and Biden refused to step down until the very last minute, which didn’t give her campaign enough time to make waves
She was explicitly saying that she was going to be Biden 2.0 on the economy, and that didn’t go well with people. Even though it wasn’t Biden’s fault that Russia invaded Ukraine or Covid happened, people still blamed him for the economic problems that these events caused.
She’s a black woman. It’s really I sad, but I personally know about a dozen people who unironically voted for Trump solely because Kamala was both black and a woman. It’s safe to say these are not the brightest people, but they unfortunately make up a very large chunk of the voter population in this country
I think you’re probably right that Trump might start a war because the midterms are around the corner, but at the same time, I genuinely think he’s too dumb to think that strategically. I think it’s much more likely that he wants something to distract the population from the Epstein files.
Honestly, I used to not understand that mindset. But living in the US now, I’m starting to feel that desperation. Literally anything that would knock that clown off his stool would be worth it, even a deal with the devil himself.
The strongest empathy comes through experience. What Iranians are experiencing now might be what we experience in 10 years if not sooner. The fight against fascism is a global one, and there’s no such thing as a good fascist regime.
All those Iranian citizens who think the U.S. is doing this for them… They’re about to find out the hard way what putting your trust in the U.S. is like, let alone Trump. You would think they’d learn from the last time.
Nobody thinks this. Lemmy users need to stop being racist like this. Iranians are not stupid, these people have agency. They know what a war with the US means, they had two of their neighbors go through it. They know it’s hell, but the thing is that the regime right now is so cartoonishly evil that if a war loosens their grip on power and opens up a real possibility for a new government, then it might just be worth it.
I’m Iraqi. My family lived through the terror of Saddam Hussein. The US invasion was hell. It destabilized the country and a lot of people died. Nobody recalls that time as a good one. Yet, at the same time, you’ll be hard pressed to any Iraqi that wishes the US didn’t depose of that evil regime.
I’m Iranian, living in Iran. He is right.
A very big portion of people think trump or netanyahu’s attack and war will save them from the islamic republic.
When people are angry, hungry, getting killed, hopeless and poor, we can’t expect their brains to work properly.
Is trump not cartoonishly evil too?
He is 100%. The difference is that Trump rules the US, not Iran. For Iranians, anything that can realistically help them get rid of their oppressors is a glimmer of hope that cling on to even if the odds aren’t that great.
The issue with that is that’s how they got into this mess the first time. And the midterms are coming, Kamala lost on Palestine. I don’t mean to be a dick but the timing seems very similar…
I wholeheartedly disagree with this. You grossly overestimate how much people care about Palestine. The vast, vast majority don’t care, it’s very much down on the list of priorities for most people, including the ones who vote Democrat. Kamala lost for 3 reasons:
I think you’re probably right that Trump might start a war because the midterms are around the corner, but at the same time, I genuinely think he’s too dumb to think that strategically. I think it’s much more likely that he wants something to distract the population from the Epstein files.
Honestly, I used to not understand that mindset. But living in the US now, I’m starting to feel that desperation. Literally anything that would knock that clown off his stool would be worth it, even a deal with the devil himself.
Fuck, this sucks so much.
The strongest empathy comes through experience. What Iranians are experiencing now might be what we experience in 10 years if not sooner. The fight against fascism is a global one, and there’s no such thing as a good fascist regime.