• rockettaco37@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    I agree that apathy is really fucking shitty, but you guys abroad have to realize that there are groups of people who genuinely are trying to get things to change.

    By pissing on these people who are celebrating protests, you’re weakening the will of the people to fight back. People aren’t going to want to change when they don’t feel like it’ll do anything.

    If you want a fire to grow, the best thing you can do is throw some lighter fluid on it instead of water

  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    Lack of job protection

    Lack of healthcare protection

    Inability to miss or reduce even a single paycheck due to cost of living

    It’s winter, and most major cities North of Texas have had below freezing temps with brutal wind chill for the past several weeks

    The recognition that no protest in the last 20 years has accomplished anything in the US.

    Put that all together, and is it any surprise people aren’t protesting?

    • wowwoweowza@lemmy.worldOP
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      We had what I call the Derek Chavin moment. Cities burned. We haven’t seen another one of those. Go ahead and research that — we shutdown several cities and we stopped that shit!

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        Stopped what shit? At the end of the day, what did it accomplish? Cops still kill black people, and most face very little repercussions.

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          I’m not sure what you are talking about.

          The George Floyd assassination was an unprecedented cold blooded murder on video for the propagandizement of racial violence. We have not had another one of those. It took cities on flame, but we have not had another one of those. In fact, please link to a video of another Derek Chavin moment.

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        The bottom is John Walker, the replacement Captain America from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, who went crazy on off-brand super soldier serum and decapitated a man with Cap’s shield.

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      Be the avenger you want to see in the world! The difficulty with stochastic terrorists is that mostly only kinda dumb people are up for it. I do admire Luigi, but let’s be real he’s a himbo. The fatal flaw here is that dumb people tend to be more conservative.

      So, I guess I’m saying don’t wait for the Avengers. They’ve all got Punisher stickers on their cars.

  • 🦇SalviaDivination🦇@lemmy.world
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    I think most people there who are against this are just too tired to care at this point and are saving their energy for the next election. I don’t know if I agree with this sentiment. On one hand there isn’t much you can do to change anything but on the other hand, speaking up and protesting will set the stage for the next election. But hey idk I’m not even American but I’m in the EU and they are basically copying them, along with the G7

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      Seems like of Europeans should be in the streets about Putin? Pressuring your leaders to send tanks and rockets? Sorry that our American idiot has withdrawn military support there. If Ukraine falls all of Europe is next?

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        Also, imo most Europeans at least the people around me and on socials don’t feel connected to what’s happening between Ukraine and Putin at all. Unfortunately if nothing is happening in their backyard, it’s just another news report.

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            Too far. In my country they complain about environmental policies ruining the economy, foreigners and pro immigrant policy damaging the country, housing prices and making sarcastic jokes about our politicians to feel better about themselves. Edit: and declining social services.

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    All of America is waiting for somebody to come along and save them, but nobody wants to be the one that gets the ball rolling. Fascism is going to win because Americans are too cowardly to act.

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    It doesn’t end, and now the left has joined at becoming “team America world police”

    I’m a native and not till this past election, have I had a bunch of whites kids try to educate me and talk down to me about colonialism and privilege. And they don’t see the irony or hypocrisy in it at all.

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    I’d love to see someone post a viable plan for America to overcome this problem. Because right now- there isn’t much that can be done that isn’t being done already. And I’ll add that it’s always so easy to look upon the problems of others and judge them as simple to solve, isn’t it?

    I mean… how many of you all were in favor of Brexit? From my recollection, it wasn’t very many. Yet- it didn’t seem like anyone did fuck-all to stop it. From over here, it almost seemed like even was totally fine with it.

    Additionally, it should be noted that he now has our military loyally shoved up his ass and with them- the technology to turn one house into a crater while leaving the one next door entirely untouched. If you haven’t noticed. We can’t seem to organize a decent-sized nonviolent protest. Hell, we couldn’t even vote this away knowing it was going to happen. The number of citizens that wanted this to happen outnumbered those that didn’t, and was actually helped by the remainder that refused to vote because of single issue bullshit and the fact that they’re fucking idiots.

    I’d be willing to bet that there’s not a free-thinking and capable person here that wouldn’t fight for their lives and the lives of those they love if/when it comes to it- but as of now, anyone with a brain knows how futile any fight would be.

    But by all means, don’t let this get in the way of all the fun you’re having making fun of people that are suffering and terrified about what’s being done to them here.

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      This post reminded me of the flood of volunteers from around the world who supported the anti-Franco armies during the Spanish civil war.

      I was getting my history from Hemingway so I decided to WIKI it and learned that the UK and other European countries supported Franco. Figures.

      That was thirty years of facism.

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        Do you always tell other people what they’re saying? I could have checked your comment history, but I figured I’d give you a chance to answer it honestly for yourself.

        Because that was not my suggestion.

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          What do you suggest? Because all your rhetoric is doomer bullshit. Feel paralyzed? Fine. Don’t shit on other people trying to do something.

          You can organize at home. You can volunteer. You yourself can get off your ass and do something.

          If you’re not comfortable doing that. That’s fine. But please shut the fuck up. Nobody wants to hear how now that this might actually affect you it’s so super scary now.

          Some of us are trying to do something, anything to help our local communities.

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            It’s not doomer. It’s being a realist. Down the line, there may be something that can get us out of this- but it won’t be protests.

            The man just fired the heads of our military. Do you think shouting at buildings is going to make them say-

            “Awww. You know what? They’re right. Let’s be nice to everyone!”

            Seriously- what do you think protesting will accomplish? The choir is powerless to stop the church. You know this right? So we’re past preaching to them now.

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              You’re a doomer, you’re afraid. You cope by screaming into the void. You preach non violence. Now you’re saying we shouldn’t be nice to everyone. Protest doesn’t work. Do you have a coherent argument or are you too unsettled to have a through line?