So,

I’ve never bothered with this before, since systemD seems to work just fine.

But I did this year stop using Ubuntu for most of my hosting needs and moved to Alpine or Debian, depending on what I’m doing.

So it makes sense to optimize even more. I read up a little about why people dislike systemD. Good reasons if mainly you’re worried that it’s doing too much and is too heavy.

So what are the alternatives that work with both Alpine and Debian? What are people using? Is it relatively easy to move from systemD to whatever is your alternative?

Thanks!

  • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Because it was not always the case that sysvinit was supported - things were sorta “accidentally hazy” for a while. There was a time (I think during Debian 9 and 10) that systemd not only was the default, but was also enforcedly linked against a large part of the stack (you couldn’t have a desktop environment, PulseAudio or NetworkManager without systemd, for example).

    This led to the rise of projects like Devuan, that provide a working system that installs without systemd by default; Antix’s nosystemd repo, which allows to install components of the Debian stack without the enforced systemd dependency; and later libam-elogind-compat which aided shimming some of systemd’s requirements under elogind.

    Nowadays at least, the only hard part of not using systemd in Debian is 1.- switching (from or to) seems to require rescue mode and 2.- you lose some of the container management goodies (for eg.: Podman services).