Glad they’re taking off the gloves a little, but it’s always been a non-option to just make our lives significantly and irrevocably better like M4A or the PRO act and although they’re good at trying and failing, they never talk about the consequences as dire as they actually are with few exceptions.

  • piefood@feddit.onlineEnglish
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    18 days ago

    The democracy where dissidents get arrested and disappeared to foreign prisons or the one where they don’t. Where autocratic leaders can get peacefully deposed or the one where they don’t.

    Considering that these things happened both under the Democrats and the Republicans, you are going to have to be more specific.

    My argument is you create a situation where democratic leadership either gets removed by intra-party politics and replaced by allies, or existing has no choice but to concede due to pressure from a large organized movement.

    Once again, they’ve already signaled that they’d rahter lose than do this. Fight for it if you want, but I’m not going to waste my time banging my head against the same wall.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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      18 days ago

      And yet you’ll bang your head against the wall of third parties that have failed to achieve anything whatsoever in over 150 years.

      I’m not sure what you’re referring to with democrats. Dissidents who break laws have been targeted. I don’t know of any who were targeted merely for speech as we’ve seen under this administration. But perhaps I am ignorant.

      • piefood@feddit.onlineEnglish
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        18 days ago

        And yet you’ll bang your head against the wall of third parties that have failed to achieve anything whatsoever in over 150 years.

        Yes. I still think that is going to be faster than the Democratic leadership changing their core values.

        I don’t know of any who were targeted merely for speech…

        This happened during the anti-genocide college protests. He also arrested people who protested his speeches.