Contextual answers come from the shared experience that got interpreted in a similar manner.
In your Jeff example, I imagined a car. As such, it was not conveyed to me that it was the train, because we have different experiences in modes of transportation mentioned by default. Your neurons reconstructed one thing, mine did the other.
How does energy exist in a world without matter? Immediate questions arise: what does it relate to? Can it be measured? How does it show itself? How do we know it’s there if there’s no matter for it to act upon? How did it form?
And God - there’s no good reason to believe He exists in the first place. Being lost in the woods of the so-called “immaterial” doesn’t bring Him an inch closer to being material and real. What is material does not need you to believe in anything; it just is.
You may believe that the wall is there, or you may not, but if it’s there, you won’t be able to walk through it like it doesn’t exist. And for all we know, no one has managed to produce something objective solely out of their perception or beliefs.
As per the last paragraph - it made me wonder if I’m talking to an LLM. In which case - good job! but please, keep it somewhere else.
I was about to compliment you for indulging me in such rich conversation, whether we agree or not. However, I was a bit insulted by the LLM comment. The last statement is moreso that early scientific developments used Jesus as a philosopher stone. Essentially just a symbol to represent whatever is unknown but is the goal/process. A variable in your formulas for whatever you needed. Not transformative or active, more as a way to change perspective and allow something to temporarily take place. It was used by people of the classical near east to middle east, who were the main developers of olden alchemy. Which later subdivided into many facets of science.
The fact that you imagined a car further proves my point. My point was not to convey a train, but rather that your brain fills in the gap. No car was uttered or written, yet you created that thought out of thin air. Yes it needs past experiences to formulate anyrhing but that just speaks to the interconnectivity of all.
As per your question of how energy exists in a world without matter, that I cannot really explain. That’s just the assumed best working theory when talking about the big bang. As scientists are also just assuming, we have no verifying abilities beyond the cosmic background. Which is just radiation we can observe using tools.
The rest of the questions are answered by my last paragraph. Energy without matter is assumed to be the primordial state, in which a huge energy release happened. This being the big bang. It can be seen and measured with tools, though our observations are not of the beginning but somewhere 300k years later. (Which btw 0k is literally the acknowledgement of zero heat energy, a mistake in your earlier comment. As cold is merely the absence.) For how it formed I cannot really fathom, it becomes easier for me to explain the big bang as the death of something grander.
So as to how it formed? Well that’s up to scientists, but for me I assume a God-like entity died and in his wake that cataclysmic energy was released. However, you are so keen to not believe so it feels moot to even elaborate. Please do not confuse this hypothetically true form of god with my earlier distinction of god within. Which the internal god is moreso a translation error over the centuries, so forth and so forth.
This internal god is just good miscontrued. It is a truth of the soul, as you age you will shed certain aspects you will become disgusted by and maybe even mortified. He who is victim would wish not to make others as well. This self control is not a natural occurrence and comes from social structures. As innately good and evil do not exist, it is only when a second being is introduced that these limitations and jurisdictions form. This is why homogeny would be the end result, however with so many perspectives the definitive good is frustratingly difficult to ever even fathom trying to quantify.
I implore you, if you take anything from this conversation let it not be god for it is not my goal. God in traditional terms does exist, it is the material lord over your current domain. (Usually a ladder parents, landlord, alderman, mayor, and so forth) Let it be instead imagination and potential that you take from this - it is the only free thing we have. It is how we as people manifest something from nothing, AKA art.
Material focus is just hell, or the place you reside. Taken from Hellas(Greece). It is the same namesake for the Hellenistic period. Imagination let’s you exist in an immaterial sense that is definitely bound by material, but expressed internally outside of the observable material but can be extrapolated. This self expression is called the liberal arts because it frees you. Ironically art itself is not part of the original quadrivium or trivium for which we get the name of liberal arts.
Anyways, again thank you for letting me ramble on about my interests. Your points have been very valid and you have been very patient with me, a rarity amongst the internet. This was truly a delight to indulge. Have a wonderful day - make it creative
Contextual answers come from the shared experience that got interpreted in a similar manner.
In your Jeff example, I imagined a car. As such, it was not conveyed to me that it was the train, because we have different experiences in modes of transportation mentioned by default. Your neurons reconstructed one thing, mine did the other.
How does energy exist in a world without matter? Immediate questions arise: what does it relate to? Can it be measured? How does it show itself? How do we know it’s there if there’s no matter for it to act upon? How did it form?
And God - there’s no good reason to believe He exists in the first place. Being lost in the woods of the so-called “immaterial” doesn’t bring Him an inch closer to being material and real. What is material does not need you to believe in anything; it just is.
You may believe that the wall is there, or you may not, but if it’s there, you won’t be able to walk through it like it doesn’t exist. And for all we know, no one has managed to produce something objective solely out of their perception or beliefs.
As per the last paragraph - it made me wonder if I’m talking to an LLM. In which case - good job! but please, keep it somewhere else.
I was about to compliment you for indulging me in such rich conversation, whether we agree or not. However, I was a bit insulted by the LLM comment. The last statement is moreso that early scientific developments used Jesus as a philosopher stone. Essentially just a symbol to represent whatever is unknown but is the goal/process. A variable in your formulas for whatever you needed. Not transformative or active, more as a way to change perspective and allow something to temporarily take place. It was used by people of the classical near east to middle east, who were the main developers of olden alchemy. Which later subdivided into many facets of science.
The fact that you imagined a car further proves my point. My point was not to convey a train, but rather that your brain fills in the gap. No car was uttered or written, yet you created that thought out of thin air. Yes it needs past experiences to formulate anyrhing but that just speaks to the interconnectivity of all.
As per your question of how energy exists in a world without matter, that I cannot really explain. That’s just the assumed best working theory when talking about the big bang. As scientists are also just assuming, we have no verifying abilities beyond the cosmic background. Which is just radiation we can observe using tools.
The rest of the questions are answered by my last paragraph. Energy without matter is assumed to be the primordial state, in which a huge energy release happened. This being the big bang. It can be seen and measured with tools, though our observations are not of the beginning but somewhere 300k years later. (Which btw 0k is literally the acknowledgement of zero heat energy, a mistake in your earlier comment. As cold is merely the absence.) For how it formed I cannot really fathom, it becomes easier for me to explain the big bang as the death of something grander.
So as to how it formed? Well that’s up to scientists, but for me I assume a God-like entity died and in his wake that cataclysmic energy was released. However, you are so keen to not believe so it feels moot to even elaborate. Please do not confuse this hypothetically true form of god with my earlier distinction of god within. Which the internal god is moreso a translation error over the centuries, so forth and so forth.
This internal god is just good miscontrued. It is a truth of the soul, as you age you will shed certain aspects you will become disgusted by and maybe even mortified. He who is victim would wish not to make others as well. This self control is not a natural occurrence and comes from social structures. As innately good and evil do not exist, it is only when a second being is introduced that these limitations and jurisdictions form. This is why homogeny would be the end result, however with so many perspectives the definitive good is frustratingly difficult to ever even fathom trying to quantify.
I implore you, if you take anything from this conversation let it not be god for it is not my goal. God in traditional terms does exist, it is the material lord over your current domain. (Usually a ladder parents, landlord, alderman, mayor, and so forth) Let it be instead imagination and potential that you take from this - it is the only free thing we have. It is how we as people manifest something from nothing, AKA art.
Material focus is just hell, or the place you reside. Taken from Hellas(Greece). It is the same namesake for the Hellenistic period. Imagination let’s you exist in an immaterial sense that is definitely bound by material, but expressed internally outside of the observable material but can be extrapolated. This self expression is called the liberal arts because it frees you. Ironically art itself is not part of the original quadrivium or trivium for which we get the name of liberal arts.
Anyways, again thank you for letting me ramble on about my interests. Your points have been very valid and you have been very patient with me, a rarity amongst the internet. This was truly a delight to indulge. Have a wonderful day - make it creative