• Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
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    2 days ago

    Are you aware of how many tens of millions of people were saved from Nazi genocide thanks to the industrialization that underpinned the collectivization of farms in the Soviet Union?

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      2 days ago

      Are you aware that many other countries industrialized without collectivizing farms? That’s not at all a requirement for industrialization and doesn’t have anything to do with the Nazis stupidly entering into a two front war because of the general incompetence that goes hand and hand with fascism.

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        2 days ago

        Are you aware that many other countries industrialized without collectivizing farms?

        Yes, the other countries at the time who had industrialized had done so through slavery (USA) or colonialism (UK, France, Germany, Japan), all of which killed tens of millions more than collectivization failures ever did.

        Nazis are stupid, but don’t diminish the Soviet war effort. 80% of dead Nazi soldiers died in the Eastern Front, and it costed the lives of 25 million Soviet heroes to achieve this.

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          Fuck the Soviets. The reason we went to war is because the Nazis invaded Poland, and the Soviets were complicit in that. Just because Hitler was a dumbass and attacked the Soviet Union doesn’t mean we owe that fucked up government anything. I respect the soldiers that fought despite the fact they had that asshole Stalin oppressing them, but I have no respect for the Soviet Union or Stalin because of the events of WWII, and neither should you.