• TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    How can the workers be in control of the means of production if they aren’t even in control of their own lives? What a silly thing to say.

    • seggturkasz@lemmy.world
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      24 hours ago

      To be honest I do feel a bit silly continuing this. However, are you trying to say that socialism is not a leftist mode of government? How would you categories the policies of socialist/communist dictatorships, centrist? Workers were not above the law, and had no input what sad laws were. But workers did own the factoryies and the kolhoz. Most of these governments collapsed because they lost the support of the proleteriat (workers). It was not the will power of the political elites that hold it to gether, but the millions of workers sincere belief that they are making the world a better place.

      Social democracy is good to live in; yeah true. Leftism (in general) is bestism; hell no.