• ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works
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    The central committee decreed that the orchard was to be collectivized, and many ladders built and distributed. But when the trees belong to everyone they belong to nobody, and that is who is motivated to care for them. So there would be no apples that year, only tears.

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        Community gardens still divide the space into individual plots. If I grow a bunch of jalapeño peppers on my plot then it’s not cool if you just come along and harvest them all.

  • Rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world
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    Sorry, what is even happening in the last panel? Why does this art look so weird when you look at the people closely? Was this picture AI generated?

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          19 hours ago

          Are you counting defensive wars against capitalist colonizers, fascist invasions, and uprisings against oppressive puppet regimes and tyrants?

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            Always the victim. Get back to your struggle sessions, and hope the target isn’t you.

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              18 hours ago

              Are you counting defensive wars against capitalist colonizers, fascist invasions, and uprisings against oppressive puppet regimes and tyrants?

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                I’m sure you’re definition is probably broad enough that that my concept might include some of the wars you’d discount. …but not all.

                in any case, even if I narrowed it down significantly, there’d be enough to disprove “communism is incompatible with war”.

                Rather, you could say “in theory, communism is incompatible with war, even though it isn’t a magical fix for the underlying tendencies and in some cases needs that drive war.”

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                  Wars happen for a number of reasons, and there should be a distinction between offensive and defensive wars.

                  In theory, capitalism is incompatible with war as it is assumed to be a system of fair exchange. Many economists and philosophers followed Ayn Rand in promoting this idea. Obviously it is NOT such a system, and is instead a relentless amoral pursuit of profit and value extraction, and will cheerfully use war to obtain resources while simultaneously extracting value via defense industry stocks. It also uses war to crush any opposed ideologies, which is censorship in its most violent form.

                  I am not familiar with how communism or socialism is compatible with war outside of Rand’s claim that socialism consumes resources leading to demand for more which must be taken from neighbors rather than using a system of free and fair exchange.

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      Marxism is anti-utopian, it’s based on analyzing how societies evolve over time. What is deemed “authoritarianism” is the need for the proletariat to exert its control over the bourgeoisie, rather than the reverse, yet bourgeois rule is more authoritarian.

      @naeap@sopuli.xyz

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        That’s fine in theory, until the party starts calling everything it sees as a potential opposition or threat to itself and any attempts to adapt to the times “burgeois”.

        Until you guys create a clear set of rules to permit gradual evolution, dissenting voices, protecting the rights of the individual and political opposition, while preventing things like cult of personality, nobody is getting on that ride again.

        (oh wait, there is another ride like that but for the nation instead of the proletariat, it’s called fascism…and everybody is getting on it…again)

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          Yes, because rule by the bourgeois will always tend towards a more authoritarian level than Socialism.

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      Yeah, because authoritarian systems always fail, without exception

      The only real solution is to remove authority and bring society to adult level - better the other way round though.

  • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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    Where is the justice for everyone that Stalin killed by sending them to gulags? To Siberia? Where is the justice for those killed by Khmer Rouge?

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    Copying my own comment from when this was posted last year:

    Every time I see this quaint but misleading image reposted it’s necessary to make the same comment: the words attached to each image are do not exclusively represent those images. “Equality” could apply to all but the first; nobody uses “equity” this way; and most people use “justice” to refer to criminal justice and punishment.

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      Wow I almost didn’t catch it - you’re right, it is slop. Sorry you’re being downvoted.