I mean, in 2005 the US was a lot closer to Canada on multiple fronts when it comes to human rights. I’m kind of surprised that the court sided with the challengers - and not at all surprised the decision was successfully appealed in 2009, which you probably should mention.

Yep. Politicians and the kind of people that hang out with politicians seem to be behind the curve on understanding what’s happening, but even they must know this by now. The trick is that rolling it back could provoke Trump, and they’re trying to keep that to a minimum at the moment.

That being said, if Carney doesn’t fix the rules within the next year I’m going to be very disappointed. The courts will probably strike it down eventually regardless.

Although this leaves ones that approve from a distance, potentially. That’s fine, secret ballots are important and the culture in the forces will be anti-AfD now.

Really, they need to ban AfD from competing. Does anybody have updates on the effort, now that it’s been prescribed an extremist organisation?

Statues are for pigeons to shit on. - Lenin

Or so I’ve heard. I don’t actually know the source for that.

The UAW that supports Trump’s auto tariffs? In spite of the fact they used to represent Canadian auto workers just accross the border as well? That’s not solidarity.

And, MAGA unions are growing in number as of last I checked. Like, sure, labour has been more active recently, and I’ve heard that it’s to be expected when you have higher inflation, but are we sure this is the democracy-loving all-accepting faction from the past, and not just chuds in hardhats?

You know, I’d actually agree with the general idea there. The Reagan/Thatcher era and the decline of unionism did come after that post-war era of prosperity, and I do think there was a correlation. The guys doing wildcat strikes earlier in the century would have absolutely lost their minds over the government firing striking air traffic controllers; people in the 80’s were mildly scandalised.

I just don’t see the trend reversing any time in the next two decades. If you look at the actual demographics of the left, the educated, progressive middle class that was always there (think Dickens or Marx) has grown to become it’s core, pushing out the trade unionists (as well as largely replacing the old conservative middle class). It’s hard to undo that overnight.

Sure, but it’s happening, and the old labour-left is pretty much dead.

I mean, the working class is going far-right most of the time these days, so I’m not sure that’s how I’d frame it.

Zionists do love their cherrypicking. The actual big picture is devastating for them, you see.

With the element of surprise? Hell yes, I would be shook. I kinda think you would too.

They all look like they’re doing poker faces to me, actually. But I dunno, maybe kiwis get used to hakas.

You can substitute in any kind of menacing display you want - viking foot stomping, boo-rah and air punches - it’s not really appropriate to spring on someone you don’t like. Here there’s a cultural component as well, but they can’t really argue it was just that with the way they directed it.

I think you guys are being tough on the internet, actually. IRL a good battle display gets audience reactions, although I’ve never been around the Maori kind.

Ah, yes.

That’s not the same as doing it in a manner that disrupts official proceedings, though. And technically it applies to all religions, although we know how coach SayAShahada would go in practice.

Interesting! Do you have a link? My search is returning a bunch of stuff about praying for the supreme court or the supreme court on prayer in local council meeting openings.

That looks like it was for the content of a statement Robert Muldoon delivered alone in 1987, though. It’s not really the same thing.

(I did miss that bit of context, though. Oops, sorry)

My goddamn family doing that to me in suits would scare me. They’re effective, and they did a good job performing it.

Sure, at no point was there a literal threat of actual physical violence. If there was, I’d expect them to be barred for life.

Lol, it appears protests happen during American proceedings so much that there’s no actual list. Pray-ins are an established tactic, though, and the penalties are given out on a pretty much production-line basis, so I doubt any exception is made. But, I can’t find a concrete example, sorry.

I bet they were, right up until they killed everyone.

IIRC, people get in trouble for that in the US. This is New Zealand, where the standards of decorum are much higher and evangelical nonsense is much weaker.

As far as I know, this is pretty standard for that level of disruption and (by the design of a haka) invective towards another member of the house. If they had been suspended for more than a few weeks it’d be fishy, but they will be back. And hopefully it’s a political victory for them and not the closet racists they were responding to.