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  • No it isn’t, US sanctioned Belarus in 2013 in violation of the agreement and America’s only response was that the Memorandum is “not legally binding” and this action made it null and void in its entirety.

    Ukraine followed the agreement and disarmed itself, Russia did not and actually armed up, you skipped that part… Russia was also forbidden to continue military actions and they did anyway. (This included the illegal occupation of Crimea, followed by a falsified gun-point referendum. By doing this, Russia completely disregarded its obligations to respect Ukrainian borders and independence).

    It depends if you consider null and void due to 2014 coup or not.

    It depends? One can argue? Do you want to commit here or just dance around the point

    No Russian action undertaken under the Minsk II agreements ever violated the SPIRIT of the agreement. While you can claim they technically violated the agreement, they did not violate the spirit of the agreement as both sides generally observed the cease fire aside form the occasional shelling from both sides.

    The spirit of the agreement? What the fuck are you talking about… They broke the agreement thousands of times.

    Rude.

    Fuck you, fuck off and fuck Russia.


  • Budapest Memorandum was made null and void when the US sanctioned Belarus which is explicitly prohibited in the agreement

    Oh you mean the one where Ukraine disarmed itself in exchange for sovereignty and protection and Russia armed up and got sanctioned for breaking the agreement. What a dumb fucking example.

    The 1997 Treaty on Friendship was not renewed although one can argue that Russian actions in 2014 violated it.

    One can argue? No Russia broke this agreement too.

    Minsk II was made null and void after Ukraine not only refused to implement them but created laws that violated the spirit of the agreement.

    All the treaties except for the Minsk Agreements were basically made null and void following the 2014 coup.

    Minsk I was violated by Russia almost immediately after it was made.

    Minsk Agreements had already been violated by Russian troops more than 4000 times, as noted by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense during a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Inter-Parliamentary Council. Ukrainians were shelled both from the temporarily occupied territories and from across the Russian border.

    Russia has never honoured a single agreement with Ukraine, and has used each treaty to force Ukraine to weaken itself.

    Fuck off.