Yeah, international fees are super expensive. As someone that has almost always received free education it scares me a lot. Funnily that’s still cheaper than paying US universities.

I’m almost done with my PhD so changing the lab would be more trouble than worth it. If it was allowed I could move and finish PhD remotely in 6-8 months, but I kind of need PhD for immigration points (no work experience in last 5 years). A post doc that pays well would be ideal. But I’m open to industry jobs as well.

Luckily my degree is in the green list for now. I heard they change it based on their demands.

It was helpful, Thank you.

I’ll look into the politics.

Academia does seem a bit small for my field, and being an experienced professor probably would have helped compared to barely finishing PhD. I consider my skills flexible enough to work in a variety of industries, but to qualify for the skilled visa I’d have to find work in the industry I have degree in.

Seems like the right shift is kind of global. I don’t see any other country being a good choice either. And we did see the tension, and the haka.

How’s science though? Main problem we have here is that people don’t really respect science anymore. Which is something that we find really scary long term.

We were thinking of moving using the skilled visa, which seems hard because we need a job offer prior to visa application. So if you have money you can just come?

Any Kiwis here can tell me if it’s a good country to immigrate to? I will have PhD soon, and want to contribute to open access research if possible.

So far the country looks great because we like slow life, but idk if that’s just for citizens or also for immigrants.

Yeah. Independence is nice and all, specially because of current advances in technology that makes it possible. But the same technology have made it possible to goto the extreme that we were not prepared for.

Classes might help. But the important part is someone with experience doing it for you until you get a hang of it. Someone giving you lession on what to do might give you knowledge but it takes practice, reminders etc. I know you said both is good. I agree with that as things change, some practice in the past might not be good now, but that might also come from every generation resetting the knowledge, if you have generational knowledge passed, and collected and refined with community and science, then the things that work well will stick out longer.

Also, no paternity leave in many places, and short maternity leave (looking at US with zero federally required maternity leave), means people take those for recovery and do not have as much free time before they have the baby.

I know right. I don’t see why countries promote this kinda individualism and expect people to have children.

So why are mothers expected to just figure things out on their own? We humans have women living way past fertile age because they were important for children, and suddenly we decided we don’t need grandma’s help passing along generational knowledge and helping first time mothers. Grandma/Grandpa are supposed to be free and focus on helping the parents so they learn and don’t make mistakes because they don’t know anything.

And community too. It’s so isolated. Makes me sad, and afraid to have children.