• SorryQuick@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Lemmy being black or white like always. You can be a leftist, vote for the left and still recognize the flaws in your own parties and the good ideologies in the other…

    I swear, the left usually calls itself open-minded, but as soon as someone on the right comes around, instead of trying to convince them with arguments, they are being called straight up evil russian bots. So what do they do, they go back to truth social, where they are well treated, and keep voting conservative.

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      3 months ago

      Nothing in the meme that directly names political parties.

      Are you someone who calls yourself a centrist but can’t decide if kids should be shot in schools or Healthcare is a human right? Weird.

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        No, I don’t think kids should be shot, and healthcare should be a thing. But here anyway, the current healthcare system is broken, and some of the conservative ideas are trying to fix it, while the left is fine leaving it half working. While I’m still a leftist, I do recognize their point and am not calling them evil for it…

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    3 months ago

    I have never met a “centrist” on social media who wasn’t. Same with the horseshoe theory.

    Let’s take America: are you for democracy or against it? - “I can see both sides” - wtf? Fascist enabler, at best.

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        This stethoscope diagram just reeks of a rebranding attempt similar to how Libertarians were adamant that they were not just Republicans yet somehow still only voted Republican and would support Republicans in all things even if it explicitly went against libertarian doctrine.

        Horseshoe theory is more accurate. Hard left is tankies. Tankies are hard left.

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            This is why I fucking hate the political spectrum.

            The left wing is for state managed finances, and putting the collective ahead of the individual. The right is for completely unrestricted economic freedom, and putting the individuals desires far ahead of any collective need. Meanwhile, we also tend to associate social freedom with the left, and conservative tradition with the right. So which of these systems defines anarchists?

            It’s just a false dichotomy, and we need to stop simplifying everything to a binary. The 4-point grid is “better,” but it’s honestly just time we stop reducing complicated and nuanced ideologies into “this or that.”

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    3 months ago

    this is very convenient this just means im always correct because everything else is just a right winger as if that’s argument.

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      Life would be better for everyone if right wingers would just shut the fuck up and keep their hands to themselves. But they just want to hurt everyone else, so their opinions are worth less than moose shit. When a right wing fuck is talking, there’s only lies to hear.

      Fuck them all.

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        3 months ago

        is this not a very progressive nice thing to say. maybe just maybe don’t be a fucking hypocrite. try being consistent in your values then just maybe someone would take you more seriously. advise from a centrist.

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            what should that be exactly? do tell very progressive person. im not the one pretending to be so fucking virtues that everybody else is an evil Nazi if they disagree with me. its just hiding behind the pretense of virtue and then acting like how a fucking Nazi would its hypocritical bullshit your no better than any right winger your so angry about. that’s what makes this so funny. you are what you hate.

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                dude you are just confirming what i said nothing i have said shows my political leaning. you on the other hand smear that shit over everything. you do not know what a troll is. you just call people conservative when they disagree with you. you really like categories because that makes everything so much easier its a fucking joke. i find this hypocrisy very entertaining. the inconsistencies in your believes make you very funny.

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    Even if they’re not a right-winger and don’t claim to be a centrist, "both-sides"ing things is a waste of time, at best.

    Like, when Jon Stewart came back to the Daily Show. I think it was his first show back, but it might have been his second… And his main talking point was about how both Biden and Trump were old. I know he’s just a comedian on a comedy show, but it still felt like a betrayal. At the very best, it was a waste of a chance to say something that could have actually made a difference.