French president delivers veiled warning to Beijing during speech in Singapore.
French President Emmanuel Macron warned China that NATO could become more deeply involved in Asia if Beijing does not do more to stop North Korea from taking part in Russia’s war on Ukraine.
“North Korea in Ukraine is a big question for all of us. If China doesn’t want NATO to be involved in Southeast Asia, it should prevent [North Korea] from being engaged on European soil,” Macron said Friday during an address at a major defense summit in Singapore.
Right. That’ll show them… Western leadership has never read a book on China have they? Him saying this all but ensures China is going to the opposite.
Has Pakistan shot down the French jets? India hasn’t confirmed those losses. If true then France doesn’t have much power to project.
On 7 May, Indian and Pakistani fighter jets battled for over an hour. Pakistan claimed that three Dassault Rafales, one MiG-29, one Su-30MKI fighter jet, and one Israeli-manufactured IAI Heron UAV belonging to the Indian Air Force were shot down. If true, would first time that a French-origin Dassault Rafale has been lost in combat, reportedly having been shot down by the Chinese-origin Chengdu J-10. This, along with the performance of Chinese-origin PL-15E missiles in the combat, reportedly gained global attention.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_India–Pakistan_conflict
All the downvotes, what’s wrong with my comment?
Why is NATO concerned about Ukraine? Maybe you should have accepted their application. Didn’t y’all reject them?
Southeast Asia out here catching strays I guess? Someone want to help me figure out why a country northeast of china sending troops to a country north of China to invade Ukraine would prompt NATO to engage in proxy war in countries south of China?
It’s naïve to think that any military action in one part of the world does not affect every other part of the world
I’m not asking about the metaphysics of war and how we’re all connected in the great chain of life, I’m asking the casua belli to get Southeast Asia involved as a consequence of North Korean military action.
edit: I didn’t want to doubt the intelligence of my fellow lemmings but if it’s not clear North Korea is not in fucking Southeast Asia
Jesus, you really struggle with this don’t you
NK isn’t in Southeast Asia, but Southeast Asia is the geopolitically contested region that China cares the most about dominating (at this point in time).
Macron said “keep your dog from shitting in my yard or I’ll let mine loose in yours”
Okay so, yes, launching proxy wars is back on the table?
Wouldn’t it be China launching the war if they attack? France is only saying they would defend in the event China initiates. Do not try to reverse the blame here.
How does any of that justify pulling Southeast Asia into a war when the front is in Ukraine and the soldiers in question are coming out of the Korean peninsula? France doesn’t own Vietnam any more.
Because North Korea doesn’t make any geopolitical moves without asking China first. They are by far their primary trade partner and arguably closest ally, with literally the only defense treaty to China out of all countries in the world.
Troops getting to Russia in order to fight alongside them in their invasion of Ukraine have to either pass through China for the shorter route, or go through the tiny 17km sliver of Russia-NK border on the far east of the Asian continent that China monitors very closely (more likely). Either way, China is giving their approval to NK for the troop movements.
Okay, but where does Southeast Asia come into any of this?
Is the plan to kill some more millions of southeast Asians like good ol’ days
I… don’t think so? I’m pretty sure they’ll just be a thorn in China’s side like they are in Russia’s.
It is, hence the downvotes. Liberals look at what we did to North Korea and Vietnam during the war and think “we should’ve gone harder bc they’re evil communists”. Also apparently they just don’t give a shit about trying not to start another world war
I don’t think Americans and Europeans know how much invasions into southeast Asia in the 1800s and prior there were. It’s not a post-WW2 thing. It’s centuries of atrocities in the region. Someday the UK are going to be grandstanding against India too and people out here will be confused why Indians aren’t wistfully looking back to the days of the British empire exporting foods by coercion while Indians go through famines
Look at this serious and credible threat! Wow, I guess Xi Jiping is quaking in his boots right now
What kind of idiot would underestimate France. They’re a nuclear power, hold a permanent seat on the Security Council, and brought us democracy as we know it.
Look at France taking the reigns. Good for you, France. The US is led by a weak ass TACO right now. We can’t help in this way… We are fucking weak. Weak ass US.
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What about sending soldiers to fight russia
Ukr is not like russia. Ukraine say they just need weapons and arms to defend themselves for giving up nukes, nothing else.
Why eould you refuse military aids? This can save many ukranian civilians
I’m sure they would take the help of soldiers too
Also note that unlike russia who conscript at age 18+, Ukraine only conscript at age 25+.