Donald Trump on Saturday said there would be “serious consequences” if tech mogul Elon Musk funds Democratic candidates to run against Republicans who vote in favor of the GOP’s sweeping budget bill.

“If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump told NBC News in a phone interview, but declined to share what those consequences would be.

“He’ll have to pay very serious consequences if he does that,” he added.

Trump also said he has no desire to repair his relationship with Musk after a feud between the two men erupted into public view earlier this week.

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      Money vs moral high ground. Anyone who says no to the money says no to having any say in politics. They would be considered an idiot in my book. There are 0 candidates who win elections from a moral high ground in the U.S.

      Make sure there are no strings attached, take the money and make changes. The strings right now can be as simple as getting those people out of office. Anyone who thinks not taking his money would help them is an absolute idiot that SHOULD NOT ever be in charge. As they are completely incompetent and make horrible decisions. Musk is a horrible person. Not taking his money extends the fascist regime the MAGA crowd supports.

      This isn’t a bowling league where you are trying to friends with the monster. This is a failing once Republic that needs saving. Take his money, get shit done. You don’t need to do anything he wants. You just need to fund your campaign.

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    “If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump told NBC News in a phone interview, but declined to share what those consequences would be.

    I wonder how many times his attorneys have explained to him the concept of incriminating yourself in advance of retaliation.

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      Trump can say and do whatever he wants. It’s his lawyer team to make sure he doesn’t under court oath. For example, Trump’s entire life and the amount of days he hasn’t been in jail.

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      He’s got away with everything so far.Why should he start caring about the law now? Legal, illegal, that’s for the poors to worry about.

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      Cool, people not voting out of principle because they didn’t like the democrat enough is how the USA got here, but go ahead, keep trying that method.

      At least Trump fixed all the overseas problems those people cared so much about, right?

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        I feel like the people not voting made it 100% clear what they were looking for. If they’re the deciding factor in who wins the election, maybe it was a massive fuck up to ignore them?

        If it’s too small a group to matter, then stop focusing on them as the reason Dems lost. If they’re a major factor in the election, Dems should treat then that way.

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          They did make themselves clear and I respect them sticking to their principles if nothing else. I just hope it was really worth it to them if the republicans actually pull off a dictatorship like they’ve been promising. Like good job sticking it to those dems in the one election they might not ever get to rectify it.

          And I hope it was worth it to them the people getting caught up in all the bullshit, such as having their lives ruined, being sent to prison for life, and dying, in the next 4 years regardless of whether they stay in power.

          Again, at least the genocide they were worried about was averted, right.

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        We got here because Harris cared more about continuing the genocide than beating Trump. It’s Democrats’ fault for choosing to lose. He only got 49.9% of the vote, after all.

        So you’d better make sure Musk doesnt make Liz Cheney the next Democratic nominee or I’ll vote PSL again, because I’ll choose to die before I vote for fascism.

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          Not voting for the Dems WAS voting for fascism in 2024.

          Harris’s stance on Israel.was bad. You know who is much, much worse? The person assholes like you empowered by throwing away your vote. And yo7 do this all the fucking time.

          If 1% of the Green Party voters in Florida in 2000 had voted for Gore, Bush would never have been President, and all the bullshit that’s resulted from that nightmare wouldn’t have happened, and the country wouldn’t have shifted to the right.

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            It’s never Democrats fault that they lose, it’s only the voters fault for not being loyal enough.

            Democrats can never fail, they can only be failed.

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              How incredibly short sighted. Parroting the dumb shit the algorithms plastered everywhere. Don’t misunderstand, it was a choice between eating a turd sandwich and accepting fascism but you decided you’re too noble to eat shit so now we’ll all live in it.

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                If you would stop eating shit for even one election cycle the Uncommitted Movement would have been able to force the Democrats to break with Israel. Democrats love Israel, and genocide, but if they knew for sure that they could never win any elections by supporting Israel they’d stop doing it.

                Presuming they actually want to win, of course.

                But because voters keep eating shit the Democrats were assured they could ignore the Uncommitted Movement and still beat Trump. And then they lost. And now elections are probably over forever and we’ll have to do something else now, so this argument is pointless.

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                  If it were a normal opposition candidate I’d agree, I’m completely fed up with Dem leadership and think they should all be removed. I’ll gladly vote for third party and am planning to vote for Working Families candidates wherever possible going forward. But this was the one time it really mattered more to just have anybody but the opposition in office. This wasn’t some theoretical would be dictator, he’d already showed his true colors on Jan 6th. The time to fight Dem leadership isn’t at such a high stakes election.

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                Well, yeah, the US did coup Australia’s government that one time.

                What I mean is, why are you commenting on voting? You know basically nothing about it. For instance, did you know Trump only won 49.9% of the vote this time? And the Republicans are calling it a mandate!

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      You’re on the wrong track, I’ve seen this particular abusive relationship before.

      This is Trump saying “If I can’t have you, no one will!” and it ends with a murder/suicide…

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      My fantasy is that Trump tries to have Elon killed/arrested but fails because he’s rich and has very good guards. So then Elon sends someone to kill Trump, which is successful. Then Elon dies from some drug complications right after. If we’re lucky, they both die after shitting their pants.

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        There’s a lot of quick and seemingly painless deaths here!! Unacceptable.


        Ok, here goes:
        The overbloated satsuma sends in the gravy seals to kill him, however they only maim him leaving muskrat in excruciating pain…but alive.
        For now.

        He escapes and goes in to exile somewhere (Moscow? Somewhere embarrassing.) but it doesn’t matter as he can’t leave his bed due to the searing pain etc etc.

        muskrat realises he’s going to die a slow painful death so in turn takes a leaf out of putlers’ book and smuggles some polonium in to Fatboys big mac. Mr Chunky CheesePaint eats said poisoned big mac and starts to deteriorate nice and slowly, but painfully.

        Now there are both slowly dying. They both have weeks or a few months at best to live. And even with pain meds they’ll both experience the horror of the agony, AND the knowledge that death is coming for them.


        Not my finest work but the essence is that they both get taken out and endure the pain they so rightfully deserve.

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        In this scenario, I would like Thiel, Yarvin, Marjorly, and the rest of the fascist gang to die in a freak aeroplane crash.

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        Bit of a FYI:

        We all shit our pants when we die. The sphincter muscles relax and well, shit happens.

        We also fart…a lot.

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          I have discovered bodies in various stages of post mortem, from recent to rigor. Shitting of pants is not a given. And I was an EMT, not just a crazy person.

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            Years ago, I read In Cold Blood, and the thing that scared one of the killers the most, was that when he was hanged, he’d shit his pants. He insisted on using the toilet before his execution.

            Not me. If they’re going to execute me, I’m going to hold it for a few days, and make my executioners deal with the ahftermath.

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          But they said AFTER shitting their pants, so really we’re just hoping two drug-addled fuckheads very reasonably shit themselves before dying so there’s insult added to injury.

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    The consequences will be we have a Nazi party and a White Supremacist Apartheid party.

    This isn’t a threat. It’s saying the quiet part out loud.

    Money controls both parties. Elon Musk is just rich enough that if something slightly goes against his wishes he can fund something to support his wishes.

    We’re in a super fucked up cyberpunk dystopia where the richest fight for the worst outcome

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    Also, golly gee thank god we avoided BidenSoOld/“GenocideJoe” and Kamala the Cop, because they would have been Just As Bad ™.

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      “They would have been worse! Kamala would have had higher tariffs!!” - my dad. He doesn’t believe me that tariffs are only a Trump thing… he doesn’t even watch fox. He mostly listens to news from Russia and Ukraine. And that guy on YouTube who sounds like a cartoon character.

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        A person in my neighborhood still has a TRUMP LOW PRICES KAMALA HIGH PRICES sign in their front yard, albeit partially hidden behind a bush. Unremarkable except they’re black and living in a subsidized housing development. You just can’t make shit like this up.

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        And that guy on YouTube who sounds like a cartoon character.

        That doesn’t really narrow it down much…

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        Trans people, immigrants, etc fearing for their lives, being kidnapped to a foreign death camp, and going full conservationist on climate change is a lot bigger of a difference than 1.3%.

        • I would still be in the US if Kamala had won. I’m trans, latina, and in a w4w relationship. But in retrospect, I’m so glad I left

          I’m still fucking tired of being treated as a political pawn by so called “leftists” who don’t actually give a shit about intersectionality

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          So much this. So tired of hearing how the Democrats are not perfect. They are a human institution, so of course they are not perfect. Whole lot of people letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Do I think Democrats can be pushed to do better? Like virtually every other Democratic voter, hell yes, I think so.

          Do I think pretending both parties are virtually the same is some truly deep truth or even the least bit helpful? Not even a little bit. But I sure know that lots of people think “both sides” is a great shorthand to showing how insightful they think they are…sigh.

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          Name one policy plank from Kamala’s campaign that was going to make a meaningful impact to climate change. As I recall, she danced around the subject and offered a little drilling, as a treat. The democrats were already softening on trans rights, and, as I recall, the Kamalampaign shied away from saying anything pro-trans and simply yelled about how bad Trump would be instead. That was basically the whole campaign-- they had three moves:

          Hey, Kamalampaign, we’d really like to see thing, what’s your policy proposals on thing?

          1. Uhhh… Well, you see, Trump is going to be much worse for you than we are.

          2. Oh, look, it’s a celebrity guest appearance! Everyone say hi to Katy Perry!

          3. I can’t believe that you’d have the nerve to even ask questions at a time like this, unbelievable that you’d even ask about thing when the alternative is Trump!

          Which isn’t surprising. That’s basically how the HRC campaign played it when they won in 2016 against Trump, and doubly unsurprising considering that the democrats didn’t trust Kamala enough and decided to stick her with Hillary’s extremely competent campaign leadership. There’s no substance there, no promise or prospect of doing any better, no reason to vote for the candidate, just reasons to vote against the other one. I don’t know who the fuck at the DNC got it in their head that that was a winning strategy, because to my knowledge, it is consistently a bad strategy in marketing, politics, business, and basically everything. And, well, they’ve won 33% of the times they’ve tried it, but by God, don’t let a god awful track record get in the way of the democrats fucking it up again.

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            Don’t need to, Trump is actively stopping federal progress on climate change. Kamala having zero policy on it, doing literally nothing and maintaining the status quo is always better than accelerationism under Trump.

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            The IRA is getting gutted and Trump is trying to force coal plants to stay open. Even if Kamala did absolutely nothing, that would still be much better for the climate. 1.3% is not a big number.

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              I really need you to understand how absolutely cooked the democrats are and the rest of us along with them when the only vision for the future that the democrats will commit to is “we promise to just not be as bad as that guy lmao”

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                  In the primary? Dean Phillips. In the general, Kamala, and I’m not afraid to share that I think a big reason why the democrats seem to fucking suck at beating Trump is their utter lack of vision.

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    Likely that Elon is the future; donvict is in the rearview mirror for the cons.

    Elon has the money. Donvict is out there doing all his grifting and scams because he does not have anywhere near the $$$ that Elon does. And if donvict thinks something like deporting Elon would end that power…LOL. Not with the system the cons have set up when it comes to buying and selling politicians.

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      Even a multi billionaire has nothing on the power of the state if it decides otherwise, and the Supreme Court made sure Trump is above the law. The state has all the goons with guns and can literally decide that you can’t sue it, among so many other things.

      I just don’t believe this is a real fight, and I won’t until one of them eats a bullet.