Donald Trump on Saturday said there would be “serious consequences” if tech mogul Elon Musk funds Democratic candidates to run against Republicans who vote in favor of the GOP’s sweeping budget bill.

“If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump told NBC News in a phone interview, but declined to share what those consequences would be.

“He’ll have to pay very serious consequences if he does that,” he added.

Trump also said he has no desire to repair his relationship with Musk after a feud between the two men erupted into public view earlier this week.

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    “If he does, he’ll have to pay the consequences for that,” Trump told NBC News in a phone interview, but declined to share what those consequences would be.

    I wonder how many times his attorneys have explained to him the concept of incriminating yourself in advance of retaliation.

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      Trump can say and do whatever he wants. It’s his lawyer team to make sure he doesn’t under court oath. For example, Trump’s entire life and the amount of days he hasn’t been in jail.

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      He’s got away with everything so far.Why should he start caring about the law now? Legal, illegal, that’s for the poors to worry about.

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    Justice: weaponized

    Party support: criminalized

    Population: fuck yeah daddy oooh yeah this is ok fuck everyone else

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    I would have a very difficult time voting for someone who received funding from musk.

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        If a guy has a vote record of regulating industries, taxing the rich, expanding welfare, etc then he’s got my vote even if David Duke endorses him. Let’s clarify this for all the morons who think this is only effects the headlines they have to see for the next 4 years; we’re voting for legislators not personalities.

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      You got a lot of angsty democrats responding here with basically “c’mon bro, please, bro, you don’t understand, if we don’t take the money to do the Hitler, then the Republicans will do it completely for free, please, bro, be reasonable!”

      Fuck that. I’m normally a pretty practical person, but if the dude who’s directly financing neo-nazism parties around the world like a one man CIA starts dumping cash into the democrats, it’s because he means to turn them into the neo neo Nazis, and they will not be getting my vote. Will the country burn? Yeah, but it’s going to do that because the democrats think fundraising is more important than having literally any principles or strong policy positions at all, regardless of whether I vote for them or not.

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        Exactly. American liberals have lost their fucking minds already sticking up for this guy after what he’s been doing.

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      I would rather vote for someone who got spite funding by a nazi than to vote for an anti-America, nazi/terrorist. And that’s anyone supporting the current regime.

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        I would too, but I’d rather vote for people willing to tell them both to go fuck themselves

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          Vote for that person in the primary and hope he musk money person loses there.

          But if they don’t, little choice after that.

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        Do you have no principles? Like look what Musk has done. And you want democratic candidates in debt and aligned with him? He’s just going to continue what he started, he’s not going to do an about face.

        We should be incriminating millionaires putting money into campaigns, not accepting them

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            The democrats are absolutely not good enough. Elon Musk is absolutely NOT GOOD ENOUGH. What an insane thing to say about a Nazi. THIS is why your country is where it is right now, not because of the people who refuse to side with nazis. It’s because of the enablers like you.

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                Voting for the lesser of two evils eventually gets you the greater evil due to apathy. Your vote feels lesser when your options are always shit vs shittier. We literally saw that happen yet democrats learned nothing. Especially when they constantly go after the shittier voting demographic

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                  Listen I’m not saying it shouldn’t be better. But I’d rather vote for a Musk funded Democrat than a Trumper. I would love to live in a reality where Citizens United never happened and money is banned from politics, but the way it stands I would vote for a literal steaming pile of horse shit if it was running against Trump and I’m not sorry about that.

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                No, you guys got Trump by American liberals not doing anything of value to steer their country away from fascism for decades and then blaming literally everybody but themselves. Your do nothingness and trying to pretend it’s activism is just so tiring. Every time your democrats were in power you increased defence spending, increased US caused civilian deaths around the world, increased the US’s stranglehold on world politics, and then you try to shame people in countries that are affected by this for not liking you. It’s not a purity test from where the rest of the world stands, it’s just the fucking reality.

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          Liberals will never admit that their lack of principals is a large part of why the USA is what it is right now.

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            Written as someone with truly no idea what the fuck they’re talking about

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            Taking Musk’s money and influence to make the world a better place isn’t a problem.

            Letting him pick a direction for the party or make policies would be my red line.

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              People don’t give money without expecting something in return. And these spineless democrats will 100% let him run circles around them if he promised to keep them in office.

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                There’s so much wrong with your little thought terminating sentence there.

                Taking Musk’s money to get power isn’t siding with Nazis.

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                  The level of naivety you have to have to think people give campaign donations while expecting absolutely nothing in return is just crazy man. I don’t even know where this logic line could even be coming from.

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          My principles don’t matter. Your principles don’t matter. The principles of every single voter doesn’t matter. What does matter is the principles of the President of the United States of America.

          The functioning of the US government isn’t just for you. Or your principles. Your principles are never on the ballot. Don’t be selfish.

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            This is brain dead. We live in a representative democracy. They’re supposed to be reflections of us. Public servants that carry out our will and nothing more.

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              If you think the US is any kind of meaningful definition of representative democracy then you don’t know what you’re talking about and shouldn’t be taken seriously when talking about these things.

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                Then enlighten me, what is it? We elect people to represent us, to vote in our favor. Not to rule over us with autonomy. Like I said, they are public servants, nothing more than DMV workers but with more responsibility.

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        Welp, that commits my mental map of the next 8 years, here comes a Musk-funded Democrat to divide all of us again for another Conservanazi win. Yippee.

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                Any successful usurpation plan requires sufficient quantities of Cadmium, Astatine-210, Tetraphosphorus, Flourine Gas, and Sulfur. I have none of those, and I doubt any will ever come into my possession.

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                  Mostly it’s because our intelligence agencies have been running aggressive counter-intelligence operations against the domestic left for seventy or eighty years. If they can’t harass them into quitting or discredit them (see COINTELPRO), then they get them assassinated (MLK Jr). The CIA specialized in launching reactionary coups across the global south to destroy democratically elected and peaceful left wing governments (see: The Jakarta Method) and there’s no evidence that they ever really stopped. To be honest, much of 2016 and on has reminded me a lot of the Jakarta Method; I wouldn’t be surprised if the CIA has turned inward on the US.

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      Who was it? Ro Khanna I think is already out there on socmed kissing his ass.

      Why do they have to suck so goddamn much?

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      Amen, fellow MAGA! Let’s also block his ability to fund the Dems with a campaign finance reform amendment! Then, when we really have Musk on the ropes, we’ll hit him with a one-two punch, overturning citizens united and codifying the fairness doctrine into law. If he thinks he can steal the next election, he’s got another thing coming! We’ll slam him by replacing the electoral college with a ranked choice voting (or other better) system! He’ll never know what hit him!

      [Me, to myself]: “God, I hope this works.”

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    Likely that Elon is the future; donvict is in the rearview mirror for the cons.

    Elon has the money. Donvict is out there doing all his grifting and scams because he does not have anywhere near the $$$ that Elon does. And if donvict thinks something like deporting Elon would end that power…LOL. Not with the system the cons have set up when it comes to buying and selling politicians.

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      Even a multi billionaire has nothing on the power of the state if it decides otherwise, and the Supreme Court made sure Trump is above the law. The state has all the goons with guns and can literally decide that you can’t sue it, among so many other things.

      I just don’t believe this is a real fight, and I won’t until one of them eats a bullet.

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      He’s all about that, but consequences for others. That’s why he told all his dipshit supporters he is their “retribution”.

      Retribution for what, who the fuck knows.

      They are angry about a lot of things, most of them made up horse manure from Bullshit Mountain, aka, the Faux News Cinematic Universe. But they expect donvict to dole out consequences to people who are not them. The dog whistle that is not all that much of a dog whistle is that the people who need to be hurt are mouthy women, LGBTQ, POC, liberals, people with an education, experts they don’t like, etc…

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    Just waiting for the “Lock him up. Lock him up.” chants. They have always been at war with Eastasia.

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    It’s insane that we’ve reached a point in the normalization of open corruption that he can now say something like that and not be immediately impeached by overwhelming majority of both parties. Even 6 years ago this alone would have never been seen as acceptable.

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    Even Epstein’s lawyer said I had nothing to do with it. It’s old news.

    Might not be the persuasive endorsement he thinks it is.

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    Sometimes I think about how if any previous president had done, over the course of their entire career, the things Trump does in the average week, or sometimes even just a single day, it would have immediately ended their career. If a previous president had openly stated that if a specific person funded their rivals there would be serious consequences, that’d be it. They’d be done. Impeached on the spot, out of office, blacklisted by their own party, and shamed for all of history.

    The news cycle crucified Obama for wearing a tan suit. They raked him over the coals because he was so out of touch that he asked a burger place if they had Dijon mustard. What do you think they’d have done if he openly promised retribution against those who dared disagree with him like this?

    And Donald motherfucking Trump does this crap all the godamn time, and he just gets away with it because the Republicans like that it’s their tyrant, the Democrats are afraid of actually doing anything, and by the time the public can mobilize against one thing he’s already done three more things that make the past look trivial.

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      They spent years saying that Obama was going to declare martial law and end elections.

      Then, Trump supporters literally stage a coup and there are no consequences. They made Carter give up his peanut farm, but Trump can keep all of his shady illegal businesses?

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      The DNC leadership isn’t afraid. The DNC leadership is doing exactly what it’s paid to do.

      Walz, AOC, Bernie? They are the real threat to the billionaires. I think it was MLK Jr who said that the greatest evil in America isn’t a single side - it’s the moderate. It’s someone who doesn’t actually care. The DNC is entirely and purposely made up of “moderates” to kneecap it. Any attempts to remove that moderate makeup get rejected.

      It’s controlled opposition. It’s how tyranny thrives in the modern age. Make your opponent look weak, ineffective, but with people you control, so they don’t happen to make any changes should they get any piece of legitimate power.

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      I don’t get it either. And the only thing I’ve come to conclude is that I should hold those in my life who in any way provided support for Trump or to what led us here accountable. I don’t know what that fully means either. Just that they’ll be hearing from me that which should be directed at the president or others, but because they won’t ever do it themselves they’ll get it from me. Kick me out of your life then. On these grounds. They’ve already made their choices anyway.

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      Stop taking them seriously. Stop meeting them in the middle. Pacification and reaching across the isle is over (not that they ever participated in it), and they’ve dropped any pretense of believing in the constitution; that was only ever a political expediency to keep the left in check. Start demanding real changes with teeth, and if they whine, well, piss on em, those dumb fucks want Donald Trump to be king, who gives two fucks what those jerkoffs think?

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    Both of these men are so stupid, it’s a shame we reward liars, criminals and cheaters so much.

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      Cool, people not voting out of principle because they didn’t like the democrat enough is how the USA got here, but go ahead, keep trying that method.

      At least Trump fixed all the overseas problems those people cared so much about, right?

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        I feel like the people not voting made it 100% clear what they were looking for. If they’re the deciding factor in who wins the election, maybe it was a massive fuck up to ignore them?

        If it’s too small a group to matter, then stop focusing on them as the reason Dems lost. If they’re a major factor in the election, Dems should treat then that way.

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          They did make themselves clear and I respect them sticking to their principles if nothing else. I just hope it was really worth it to them if the republicans actually pull off a dictatorship like they’ve been promising. Like good job sticking it to those dems in the one election they might not ever get to rectify it.

          And I hope it was worth it to them the people getting caught up in all the bullshit, such as having their lives ruined, being sent to prison for life, and dying, in the next 4 years regardless of whether they stay in power.

          Again, at least the genocide they were worried about was averted, right.

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        We got here because Harris cared more about continuing the genocide than beating Trump. It’s Democrats’ fault for choosing to lose. He only got 49.9% of the vote, after all.

        So you’d better make sure Musk doesnt make Liz Cheney the next Democratic nominee or I’ll vote PSL again, because I’ll choose to die before I vote for fascism.

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          Not voting for the Dems WAS voting for fascism in 2024.

          Harris’s stance on Israel.was bad. You know who is much, much worse? The person assholes like you empowered by throwing away your vote. And yo7 do this all the fucking time.

          If 1% of the Green Party voters in Florida in 2000 had voted for Gore, Bush would never have been President, and all the bullshit that’s resulted from that nightmare wouldn’t have happened, and the country wouldn’t have shifted to the right.

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            It’s never Democrats fault that they lose, it’s only the voters fault for not being loyal enough.

            Democrats can never fail, they can only be failed.

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              How incredibly short sighted. Parroting the dumb shit the algorithms plastered everywhere. Don’t misunderstand, it was a choice between eating a turd sandwich and accepting fascism but you decided you’re too noble to eat shit so now we’ll all live in it.

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                If you would stop eating shit for even one election cycle the Uncommitted Movement would have been able to force the Democrats to break with Israel. Democrats love Israel, and genocide, but if they knew for sure that they could never win any elections by supporting Israel they’d stop doing it.

                Presuming they actually want to win, of course.

                But because voters keep eating shit the Democrats were assured they could ignore the Uncommitted Movement and still beat Trump. And then they lost. And now elections are probably over forever and we’ll have to do something else now, so this argument is pointless.

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                  If it were a normal opposition candidate I’d agree, I’m completely fed up with Dem leadership and think they should all be removed. I’ll gladly vote for third party and am planning to vote for Working Families candidates wherever possible going forward. But this was the one time it really mattered more to just have anybody but the opposition in office. This wasn’t some theoretical would be dictator, he’d already showed his true colors on Jan 6th. The time to fight Dem leadership isn’t at such a high stakes election.

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                Well, yeah, the US did coup Australia’s government that one time.

                What I mean is, why are you commenting on voting? You know basically nothing about it. For instance, did you know Trump only won 49.9% of the vote this time? And the Republicans are calling it a mandate!