Does the world’s richest man really believe that the West might be saved by the same sexual practices found in a Chinese imperial court?

Elon Musk allegedly has at least 14 children with four separate women.

Musk is also allegedly building a series of properties – a baby compound some are calling it – to house his various families.

“A collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilisation faces by far,” he tweeted in 2022. “There’s really no time like the present. Just have kids. You won’t be sorry. It’ll work out.”

If all these pronatalists want legions of children, perhaps it’s time they started being better fathers.

  • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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    discussion about family values and having babies is split into two extreme camps – the trad-wife Right and the “abolish the family” Left

    What is this nonsense? Assuming there even is an “abolish the family” left, it is so tiny and niche that I’ve never even heard of it. Certainly nothing as vocal and prevalent as the trad-wife people. I rather suspect that this author just had to find, or maybe make up, something so they could both-sides the topic and feel superior to everyone.

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      For conservatives, “family” is just a dog whistle for patriarchy. In other words, they’re just butthurt about womens’ lib and male heads of households not having absolute power to abuse their wife and kids.

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        Hey that’s not fair, it’s also a dogwhistle for homophobia. They’re butthurt about gay rights too lol

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      The Left is typically critical of the “nuclear family” because most of us want the rest of the family back in the picture. It takes a village to raise kids and only in the last century or so has this notion of “two working parents can manage it” arisen.

      So we want to abolish the family by making our families bigger, with cousins etc playing more of a role in our lives than Western media typically portrays.

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        No the left is not critical of the “nuclear family”. The left more more typically feels that people should mind their own business about what other people feel is a family. If you want a traditional ma, pa, and kids family, that’s great, you do that. But if I want two dads and adopted kids, I should be able to do that too.

        we want to abolish the family by making our families bigger

        Yeah, that makes no sense at all.

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        Or to put a different spin on it, people on the left believe that just because someone is related by blood doesn’t actually make them your family. We believe strongly in found family - no matter what form that family comes in.

        This thought is an existential crisis for sexists, racists, and assholes of every type, because it teaches people that they are allowed to leave their abusers and find happiness outside of tradition.

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    Republicans, and the right more generally, have always been hollow shits. “In-groups to protect and out-groups to bind”, as they say. They’re the worst people and should be removed from power.

    They’re infuriating. They don’t want abortions, but they don’t want sexual education or contraceptives. They want a stay at home parent, but they don’t want to have wages high enough to support that. They are like children screaming they want to eat their birthday cake but don’t want it to go away. We need to stop taking them seriously and instead put them down for a nap.

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    “Family Values” is just a stand in for Anti-LGBTQ or even Anti-Interracial relationship. Like you see the words “family values” on dating profiles of conservatives below the “looking for” section, even on profiles of multi divorced people. Basically it’s just code for “only bigots apply”

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    Oh they’re just teeing up to bring back a particular modern revelation that was super epic and cool and not totally fucked up, weird, sick, depraved and entirely self serving to the personal desires of the few. Classic human shit to be honest. Genetics is gonna come back swinging hard on these dipshits thankfully it has a knack for correcting this sort of thing

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    This guy is worried about birth rate but isn’t ivf daughters? Women are substantially more valuable then men when it comes this.