Summary
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a private meeting inadvertently broadcast via a hot mic, warned that Donald Trump is seriously considering annexing Canada to secure its critical mineral resources.
Speaking to business and labor leaders, Trudeau claimed Trump’s administration is keenly aware of Canada’s resource wealth and sees annexation as a means to control it.
The comments, cut off after staff realized they were audible, underscore growing economic and political tensions.
He also stressed the need to diversify trade, noting, “Geography means we’re always going to both benefit and be challenged by trade with the United States.”
Nothing Trump says is a joke, unless he realizes he’s getting too much pushback on it for going too far. Then it’s a joke.
Still never a joke to him, that’s what his supporters say for cover.
‘I don’t kid’: Trump says he wasn’t joking about slowing coronavirus testing
Administration officials have scrambled in recent days to clean up the president’s remarks from his weekend rally in Oklahoma.
They had said, “Ha! He was making a funny!”
I just had this conversation with my boss yesterday. He said he thinks the comments are funny because he thinks he’s joking and just making everyone mad. I said no, he may present it as a joke to test how far he can go, but if there’s not enough pushback, he keeps going.
Trump is using Putins playbook. Constantly threaten to annex your neighbors. Neighbors take those threats seriously and start to build up a standing army at the border. Convince populous that the neighbors are threatening the nation and are preparing for an invasion. Yada yada yada. Start a “special military op“ and invade neighbor.
I mean Trump has literally forced both Canada and Mexico to move a standing army in the thousands to the borders now, so I see he is not wasting time with this casus belli.
Putins playbook wasn’t exactly that.
he already had control of Ukraine, the problem was his capos were idiots, pissed off the people. and the people kicked out his capo with torches and pitchforks.
he then declared all future ukrainian governments illigetimate. and his actions have been based on a vague idea of “It all used to be one country 300 years ago because of imperialism, and the current government is not legitimate”
That argument doesn’t work with Canada and the US. Yes, the US tried multiple times to take British North America, but failed.
Effectively, America already does control Canada through influence and assertion. but Canada is still a sovereign country. Smooth brained fascist and imperialist Chuds, just want America to look bigger on a map. they think that if there is ever a war with China, they’ll need Unfettered access to all materials in grasp. (which doesnt make sense based on their tariffs against taiwan, those tariffs imply they’re going to let China take taiwan, therfore no war with China)
at the end of the day, its dumb chuds who treat world politics and the hundreds of millions of peoples lives affected by it, like its a game. and they’re angry with canada because america has believed for decades that they’re in a culture war, and canadians are the opposition because they’re on average, much more liberal than american liberals.
He is Putin’s pawn
Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.
Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.
I would kill and die in a war with Americans if they tried to force us into becoming Americans. I would rather die and take as many of you with me as possible than become an american
Guarantee I’d be sabotaging shit on this side to help you guys win. Every sensible American loves our Canadian neighbors and respects their sovereignty.
make no mistake, that line gets crossed. its over for everyone.
The US will enter a civil war. And it probably wont end for decades Canada will be destroyed. Gobbled up in the same civil war south. NATO will cease to exist. Europe will be in peices. The war with Russia will expand, many of europes countries will refuse to honor treaties and end up fighting each other until some vague lines are drawn between Russia and the resistance.
And as an american I applaud you for it. This is the dumbest timeline.
I’m American and I’d be 100% on your side, there is every reason to not be in the US, you don’t deserve our fate.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/United_States_annexation_of_Canada
The primary reason for the annexation were Canada’s natural resources, considered vital to the American military effort in the Sino-American War.
The tipping point came in 2072. As the U.S. escalated its exploitation of Canada’s resources, her people took to the streets. Protests and riots erupted in several Canadian cities and an attempt to sabotage the Alaskan pipeline by unknown forces was foiled, but provided the U.S. Government an excuse to officially annex Canada.
When pictures of the atrocities committed in the name of the United States made it over the border, they sparked unrest and protests from the American public. Both sides thoroughly armed, it had little impact on history, as former Canadian land provided much-needed resources for maintaining the war effort, and the country was overrun.[Non-game 5][Non-game 6]
In a statement to the press, Buzz Babcock, commander of U.S. forces in Canada, cited security concerns as the primary reason for the annexation. He also stated that “Little America” was always the property of the United States and the U.S. military announced the official annexation of Canada on June 3, 2072.
Even among the military, the annexation was met with mixed reactions. For some, the act was considered criminal.[5] Open warfare between the opposing armies across the former nation commenced, with the Yukon becoming one of the many fronts alongside Anchorage in the Resource Wars.[6] Despite the outcry, the military initiative forged ahead. Propaganda portrayed the annexation as a “liberation”, with comic series such as Tales from the Front and cartoons such as Armor Ace and the Power Patrol championing U.S. occupation forces while vilifying Canadian resistance; for instance, the villainous “rogue robots” of the Yukon Five in the Armor Ace board game Cold Steel were explicitly described as part of the “Yukon Uprising.” Vault-Tec in particular sought to bank on the annexation as they began building and advertising available Vaults in “newly-annexed Canada.”
Fallout is supposed to be over-the-top dystopian parody, but here we are.
Just… don’t show any of this to the administration, hm?
Turns out people were pretty good at guessing what the end of America would look like.
This quite a historic geopolitical paradigm shift. It’s been implicitly assumed that the two countries are forever allied out of mutual interest.
It’s been implicitly assumed that
Society seems to be built on a lot of obviously untrue assumptions.
Okay not to downplay the fucked up reality of this situation, but does it bother anyone else that the Orange Idiot thinks Canada should be just one State? And one hostile to him and his party at that, out of spite if nothing else.
i knoe Alberta is probably red, what about the other providences? Any Canadians want to chime in? What would the hypothetical blue/red breakdown be?
I live in rural AB and I’d be surprised if 1 person in 10 had anything good to say about trump. Most people know that he’s a lying shitbird, and want nothing to do with him. And frankly Danielle Smith is sliding fast since her toadying reaction to his tariff threats.
It’s sad that all I can do as an Aussie is buy some real maple syrup. It also says a lot about what Canada gives to the world. There’s a damn good reason that Americans put the Canadian flag on their backpacks. We say here that New Zealand is to Australia what Canada is to America. They are our better, kinder sibling, the ones who didn’t join the war, the ons with more honour and integrity. Go Canada.
Pump the breaks there buddy. Canada has done plenty of fucked up shit that mirrors America and in some cases were actualy worse. They’ve just got better PR.
Trump is clearly a fucking asshole facist but ask the First Nations how much better and kinder Canadians are.
Yeah we aussies know how badly we treated our indigenuos people too, the new zealanders were better, as I said. I’m still going to shill for anyone who stands up to trump. We live in the prrsent.
Americans genocided the indigenous people and created a whole genre of entertainment, cowboys and indians.
Not sure if that’s the best example to make.
A blue state with the population of texas, lets see how that affects congress.
Canada will be treated like Puerto Rico to ensure this doesn’t happen…
Australians are pissed. We have been right with the yanks in “America 1st” for decades and we get looked over again
They know that China will defend us… and then claim Australia as red territory.
This is just big talk for the cameras. The logistics of such a thing. Are so ridiculous and insane that if it was actually attempted. Canadians would basically become slaves with no rights… The Country would be torn apart by Resource fiends. They wouldnt even know what to do with 40 million people under a different legal system, so that would imply hundreds of thousands of people would end up just getting murdered or dying of neglect as society collapses
And that would open the door for massive waves of violence. What ISIS, AQ, etc did to America, That would absolutely be on the table.
This goes for any country. But if a country that’s supposed to have been our friend and ally for generations decides its time for Imperialism, and wipes out their neighbor like that in some putin hairbrained map drawing fantasy… Let me just say that Treachery is the lowest circle of hell. And people would have absolutely zero qualms after having everything taken away from them, in such a betrayal, zero qualms about targetting the civilian population of the aggressor.
and abandoning the whole somber story of how life would be over for 30-40 million Canadians, let me say that this act would 101%, without a doubt, Cause a US civil war. This is a Red line. And if there isn’t an eruption of mutinies, coups, revolts and violence in the US as it was enacted, Well, in that case, the Nazis already won.
Ya know, even with all the apt comparisons to Hitler and Putin, one thing I didn’t have on my bingo card was him actually trying to expand US territory by invading and annexing other countries. I thought that was one big difference.
Everything else I could imagine is now in progress: Disregard/end of the Constitution and rule of law–check. Dismantling of democracy into an authoritarian dictatorship–check. Mass deportations and concentration camps–check. Full-on implementation of Project 2025–check. Blatant corruption, lawlessness and self-enrichment for trump family and oligarchs–check. Implementation of Christian Nationalist policies–check. Dismantling of federal agencies and beneficial aid programs–check (so far DOJ/FBI, USAID, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, Dept of Education).
As yet unchecked, but only a matter of time (it’s only been 3 weeks!): dismantling of additional agencies and programs: SNAP, medicaid first, then social security, medicare, all the stuff they hate. Use of military against civilians, requirement to carry ID papers with proof of citizenship, sham elections, and more!
Unanticipated by me: Musk given free reign to dismantle whatever parts of the US government he feels like, and now invasion and annexation of other countries and territories!?! In the sights: Panama Canal zone, Greenland, Canada, and Gaza. Could this really happen?
Trump must realise Canada one of the founding members of Nato and an attack on one is an attack on all.
Im not Canadian I should add but yeah this kind of thing really will not go well for anyone same goes for Greenland.
Unless the British and French are going to Nuke America, Article 5 is useless for Canada being attacked by America. Article 5 was made for Europe and North America vs Russia… NATO fighting against America would basically end up being, US bases in Europe get wiped out, Europe takes cataclysmic casualties trying to fight America, and deal with Russia at the same time
(who would absolutely move in, and possibly try to align with America. its been a poorly kept secret for a decade that Republicans want Russia to be their ally so they can control a monopoly of the world’s nuclear weapons and point them at China)
and after all of that, Fascist America would basically be an Island while it rapes Mexico and Canada in a genocidal purge. and probably erupts into a civil war at the same time Because no one is going to be able to cross either ocean to come to their aid.
You know without the US Nato has five full aircraft carriers if you count lhds they have about 20. They absolutely could bring the war directly to America.
Meanwhile China will be watching on likely to pick off the remnants.
those carriers are small by comparison, and as I said there is no way they would be able to pull all of their assets from facing east, and suddenly turn them west without Russia sensing an opportunity and attacking Poland and the Baltics.
Remember that Russia considers itself to already be at war with Nato. And the Russian regime has been playing footsies with the Republican party for a decade or more now.
Two things to remember about that guy:
1)Trump is stupid
2)Trump is the president
Whatever we do, we all must work around those two things. Point 2 implies that he is not permanent, but who knows what the future might hold.
Everything is still within timeframe for the Fallout timeline to emerge.
War of 1812, Part II: Electric Bombaloo
