I know. I never said they were the same. I’m trying to say that this comes across like a zionist strawman.
Complaining about antisemitism right now is just cringe.
Jews have a right to exist.
Israel doesn’t.
There are genuine concerns about people promoting “Israel” to benefit from the extermination of the Palestinian people, and that’s what this looks like a strawman of, to me.
And to be clear, I don’t think “the Jews” are behind this. It’s largely rich and powerful people from the US (and UK and other countries), who often consider themselves to be Christian.
I’m not trying to defend the crazy guy in the comic. I’m trying to say that we shouldn’t be pretending this guy is representative of anyone who matters.
You’re suggesting that the auther who drew the comic is a secret zionist, or that the readers who like it are secret zionists, and neither track. Like, at all.
I think this is a genuine touch grass moment, man. I don’t know what news sources you’re plugged into, but not every mention of even vaguely Jewish or Jewish-adjacent ideas is innately pro- or anti- the state of Isreal. You’re wading deep into a culture war no one else is a part of.
Conflating racism and legitimate complaints about Israel’s behaviour is a common complaint made about some of Israel’s defenders. Seems to me you’ve just done exactly the same thing from the other direction.
Well sure… but this is a political comic that’s basically saying “these crazy people hate the Jews and blame them for everything”.
Obviously you can post whatever you want and there surely are crazy people like this, but to me this comes across as though it could be trying to discredit certain criticisms and seems in bad taste right now. It doesn’t really matter what you say you personally believe.
But if you find this funny then sure. I’m not trying to have your post removed or anything.
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This is a bad post to make when Israel is currently committing a genocide and powerful people are clearly trying to distort the truth about it.
Of course “the Jews” aren’t behind the trees being fake or whatever, and antisemitism is bad… but this reeks of zionist pro-Israel strawman shit.
Israel != “The Jews”
Israel is a country. Jewish is a Religion.
I know. I never said they were the same. I’m trying to say that this comes across like a zionist strawman.
Complaining about antisemitism right now is just cringe.
Jews have a right to exist. Israel doesn’t.
There are genuine concerns about people promoting “Israel” to benefit from the extermination of the Palestinian people, and that’s what this looks like a strawman of, to me.
And to be clear, I don’t think “the Jews” are behind this. It’s largely rich and powerful people from the US (and UK and other countries), who often consider themselves to be Christian.
I’m not trying to defend the crazy guy in the comic. I’m trying to say that we shouldn’t be pretending this guy is representative of anyone who matters.
Half the world’s Jews live in Israel and are protected by the state.
Calling for the destruction of Israel is in effect calling for murder and displacement of half of the world‘s Jews.
It doesn’t, though.
You’re suggesting that the auther who drew the comic is a secret zionist, or that the readers who like it are secret zionists, and neither track. Like, at all.
I think this is a genuine touch grass moment, man. I don’t know what news sources you’re plugged into, but not every mention of even vaguely Jewish or Jewish-adjacent ideas is innately pro- or anti- the state of Isreal. You’re wading deep into a culture war no one else is a part of.
Conflating racism and legitimate complaints about Israel’s behaviour is a common complaint made about some of Israel’s defenders. Seems to me you’ve just done exactly the same thing from the other direction.
Free Palestine
Now fuck off and lemme just post funny thing without making an insane leap
Well sure… but this is a political comic that’s basically saying “these crazy people hate the Jews and blame them for everything”.
Obviously you can post whatever you want and there surely are crazy people like this, but to me this comes across as though it could be trying to discredit certain criticisms and seems in bad taste right now. It doesn’t really matter what you say you personally believe.
But if you find this funny then sure. I’m not trying to have your post removed or anything.
Go read words 8 through 10 again.
Dude shut up
Almost every conspiracy comes back to “THE JEWS DID THIS” when you get to the heart of them
That’s completely separate from the atrocities Israel is currently doing
Let us laugh at the idiot conspiracy bitches and go away