• foggianism@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Normalize not having an opinion regardless. You can be knowledgable about some topic and not have a stance you want to ‘defend’ anyway. Make ‘opinionated’ a bad word as ‘terrorist’.

  • troglodytis@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Um, no.

    There is no such thing as “properly informed”.

    Just understand an opinion isn’t truth or fact. Form and reform them at will and often.

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      This post isn’t saying you shouldn’t be informed. It’s just saying you don’t have to have an opinion on things you aren’t yet informed about.

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        My brother-in-law is “informed” about a lot of things, like vaccine skepticism, weather machines, and how arsenic in regular rice will turn his fingernails black. I’m the one that needs to do the research, so I’ve been told.

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      I would genuinely have a lot more respect for someone who admits to not knowing anything and asks a lot of questions, than some blowhard who thinks they know everything about even one topic.

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    Problem is, you can only know you are not properly informed by learning at least a bit about something. Or the other way around: the more you specialise in a field the more you learn how little you know.

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      It’s pretty easy to know if you’ve spent a lot of time looking into a topic or not. If your knowledge consists of watching a YouTube video from a non-expert or picking things up passively, it’s probably better to stay quiet.

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    As others have said, the problem is when people refuse to acknowledge new information or admit imperfection.

    You don’t even need to fully admit fault in the moment. If someone provides some contradictory information, you can go “Oh, that’s new to me. I’ll have to read about it.”

    But the problem is people (all of us, to some extent) are emotionally invested in this. Admitting being wrong or imperfect feels like an attack on our security. You have to let that go. No one’s going to hurt you if you admit you forgot the capital of NJ. You don’t have to fight and try to change the argument to “well it should be Princeton” so you can avoid feeling wrong.

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      I take pride in admitting when I realize I’m wrong, and I respect people who you can show proof and flip on the spot

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    I got a hell of a lot smarter when I learned to be vulnerable in this way. I was a “gifted kid” in school and had built most of my identity around being smart, so it was a lot of work, but hugely worth it

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    I’m a fan of strong opinions weakly held. You should always have an opinion and it’s ok for it to be wrong if you’re willing to change it as you learn.

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        You take a stance fully, like “McDonald’s is the best food ever” the weakly held part is changing when you try literally any other food.

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          That seems like hubris and foolishness. Like, if you know you have limited experience with food saying the one you’ve tried is the best of all seems unlikely to be true. Maybe this is a bad example?

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          That sounds like a hassle, and leads to being wrong most of the time, doesn’t it? Most often the answer to any question is some form of “it depends”…

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            Yes you’ll be wrong a lot, but that’s not a bad thing. The constant process of using existing knowledge to form an opinion and then updating as you get more information leads to being wrong less often. It’s also basically the scientific method.

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        It’s kind of a prerequisite for growing up into roles of responsibility.

        You simply don’t get far in terms of business, climbing career ladders, being thought of as reliable and being someone trusted if you react without thinking. I mean, yah there are companies run by morons who conflate loud stupidity for confidence, but largely most of the time if you make yourself available to handle responsibility by proving you won’t attack someone’s character or dismiss someone out of hand or act annoyingly confident about things you don’t know anything about, you will become the “go to” person to handle things.

        Just being someone who asks other people a lot of questions makes you likeable and people will choose to want to be around you because they rather tell you about themselves or things they know than be lectured.

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    I thought I understood PKI technology. I studied, was a consultant.

    Then I met some engineers at cloudflare and realized I was an ignorant buffoon. It’s a long fall down the ego well.