• Jesus@lemmy.world
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      Y’all know if Trump had a massive stroke right now, a big part of his base would start blaming foul play, not the fact that he’s old as shit, has visible cardiovascular disease symptoms, and exercises via golf cart.

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    Trump’s campaign really shot themselves in the foot by making Epstein one of their top issues.

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      Eh, more like constantly spouting spurious claims that will inevitably bite them in the ass. This one just happened to stick.

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    Yeah. I don’t think the magats are competent enough to actually put out a proper hit. And the TLA assets who ARE mostly would have been fired because they worked the russia beat or whatever.

    Still. All for the qanon conspiracy folk to get riled up against their handlers because they are too stupid to critically think through anything “conspiracy” related.

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    Haven’t “maga” (nonsense word with no real meaning) realized that Taco has HEREBY ORDERED them to stop talking about Trumpstein, I mean, Epstein?

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      What do you mean, nonsense with no meaning? Millions are using it with fairly specific meaning.

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        You and I might know it means the set of deplorables and their awful views on race and gender, but when they use that term, just what policies and principles do they want others to believe that “maga” stands for? I mean, it’s not 100% white people in the group calling themselves “maga”, so other than sucking up to Taco, what are the core principles that are the supposed cover story to pull in POC, women, LGBTQ and so on?

        Same goes for other terms they use that sound like baby talk…like “maha”. Just how do they plan on making people “healthy”? What metrics will they use? Does “healthy” include things like reversing the recent trends in maternal mortality? Or is it just about lining the pockets of Big Wellness for RFK? No, we just get baby talk like “maga” and “maha” and very little discussion about real goals, real metrics, etc…I’m just tired of all the baby talk that passes for real definitions of anything. Nailing down what any of “maga” and “maha” are supposed to stand for is like nailing jello to a tree. It’s like when Orwell talks about losing the language. This mostly passes without comment, too, by the way. We are just supposed to accept terms like this…

        When the likes of MTG claim they are the “real” maga, and those that don’t want to release the Epstein files are not, how can anyone really argue for either side, since “maga” means nothing at all other than loyalty to Taco, and the real meaning that most normal Americans know is behind “maga” (xenophobia, homophobia, misogyny, theocratic, etc.) doesn’t really enter into releasing information about pedos for or against. They are for it if they think it will mostly damage Democrats, but against releasing it if it would hurt Taco…

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          The MAGA people gave it their meaning. That is all that matters, even if we do not understand/share/know/… that meaning. What you said sounds like someone saying “x is not a real word”, completely ignoring that language constantly changes. I reply to you because you are not just wrong but also damaging. You have to acknowledge that they exist and really believe that stuff. It is not made up nonsense to them and as a result of their actions also not for anyone else. Ignoring them like that can only hurt us more.

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        Yeah. MAGA has always been a symbol of white supremacy. It has pretty specific meaning. The dude walked down the escalator and started calling Mexicans criminals and rapist. He said on a major TV network with half the world watching that immigrants are eating people’s pets.

        MAGA is white supremacy. MAGA is Nazi shit. Always has been.

        Dude said that immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our nation”.

        Might as well be saying the 14 words.

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        But it’s like calling someone’s class a DPS. It’s just… off. Even if everyone accepts “you’re a damage per second and I’m a healer.”

        “Make America Great Again is seething.” Uh huh.

        Everyone knows what these things mean. But we could have done better.

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    Whaaaa…

    Black won acquittal in 1991 for Smith, a nephew of John F. Kennedy, on rape charges and later married one of the jurors in that nationally televised case, Lea Black, who later became known as a cast member on “The Real Housewives of Miami.”

    He also represented Epstein during his 2006 criminal case on charges of soliciting prostitution from underage girls, and Black helped secure his 2008 plea agreement that was challenged by two victims who said the deal violated federal law because they were never given an opportunity to object to it.

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      They legit had no clue Trump was involved. That’s how much of an echo chamber they had. Now the faction that cared the most about the Epstein files is clashing with the rest.

      There are almost certainly high level donors to the Democrats in there, too, and probably Bill Clinton and a few other politicians. Naturally, the left in the US is happy to have them released, anyway, but MAGA doesn’t think in those terms. They think everyone to the left of Hillary is brainwashed into supporting Democrats, and would never support releasing the files. That’s why they were able to pretend it had nothing to do with their side.

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      The conspiracy wing/Q cult of the party have spent a lot of time trying to “root out” the global pedo cabal. Dump telling them to shut up about Epstein is a direct betrayal of what they’ve believed for years now. We will see if any actually peal off.

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        The conspiracy wing/Q cult of the party have spent a lot of time trying to “root out” the global pedo cabal

        Well, these dipshits thought Taco was going to bring about “The Storm” and arrest Hillary, Podesta, Obama, etc…and that children were being trafficked out of the basement of a basement-less pizza parlor, so, let’s just say they have a very active imagination and have next-level abilities to tie themselves into pretzels with their “logic” about the real world.

        Just the fact that they believe the real source of pedophilia would be primarily Democrats, and would not involve someone so obviously creepy and slimy like Taco - a guy that is on record saying what he has said about his own daughter - tells you a lot about their reasoning capabilities.

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          Its because they don’t and never have cared about children. They just want to hang/lynch people they don’t like while feeling righteous about it.