Sorry again for changing the headline but wanted the interesting part out again. Full video in the story.

OG headline: ‘I never went to that island’: Trump says of Epstein’s underage getaway and tells reporters to talk about Bill Clinton

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    I saw someone reported this post for changing the title of the article. Nevertheless, in this case, the post title that was used appears to be more objective, more informative, less of a clickbait title than the original, and the author of the post was upfront about this modification from the outset, so I’m going to let it stand.

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      If there’s any way I can be more transparent about it or a better way to go about it I’m happy to oblige. Article titles nowadays just aren’t forthcoming. Intentionally so to get people to click.

      I just wanna make sure the important bit is surfaced.

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    “I’m allowed to” is something a child mind thinks and says when it feels it needs to seek permission.

    Of course you’re allowed to. Pardons are granted in the Constitution. Speak with authority and command in your position. Not like a weak little bitch who thinks “I’m allowed to.”.

    Everyone knows the toddler president is a weak, pathetic fool. Only someone who is a more weak and pathetic fool could be his supporter or sycophant.

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      That’s the fun part about revealing Clinton. You can’t say it’s a hoax and fake then simultaneously be like “well Clinton is in the files!” without indicting yourself.

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    Well now we know what the Maxwell “testimony” is going to be:

    Trump was never there, but Clinton was there every weekend.

    Annnnd pardoned.

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      “Epstein and I were about to abduct someone when Trump swooped in with a golden greatsword and his 6’5” 220lb frame and threatened to cut us down. He was truly an American hero that day.”

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      They’ll spin it as “now she’s ready to talk!”

      But the truth is she’s already talked, and said multiple times she has nothing else she hasn’t said.

      The reason she never got anything for info, is she’s already lied and willing to say anything to be released.

      I fully expect her to “exonorate” trump, blame all his enemies, get released…

      And dead almost immediately so nothing else can be said.

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    This really says it all. I don’t give a crap who’s in the Epstein files—they should all be investigated.

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    I do love the potential of Trump throwing a deal at Maxwell to name Clinton in the Epstein files to finally ‘get’ the Clintons, only to them have it blow up in his face if Clinton then turned around and named Trump as being there as well. I don’t believe either will happen but it’s a fun thought. You just know if Bill is going down he’s taking everybody with him.

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    So the obvious fix is that they’re going to meet with Maxwell and secure her false testimony in exchange for a pardon, but at this point, no one’s going to believe her if she says Trump was never involved. If she’s smart, and I hope she is, she realizes that a pardon with Trump still in power is worthless. There’s no way they’d let a loose end like her live out her days, too much of a risk. In that case the best option would be to play along and act like that’s what you’re going to do, get in the hot seat in front of Congress, swear on a book, then tell the absolute uncut truth about EVERYTHING that Trump, and any other rich politicians, then explain that her life is in danger and that Trump wants her dead because of what she knows, and that she has even more info.

    Drop that fucking bombshell in front of Congress and the whole world, and she may actually come out of things a free woman who’s somewhat redeemed herself, and completely fucked over a lot of shitty human beings. If she plays ball with Trump, no one will believe her, and she’ll just end up suicided in a few months. I’m sure she’s well aware of the likely scenarios. You can’t run and hide from a psychopath who’s in charge of the best military and equipment in the world. You have to kill the king in front of his own court.

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      no one’s going to believe her

      Give the Wingnut Wurlitzer a few weeks to work the crowd.

      Plenty of people scoffed at QAnon and the MIA/POW guys or Sovereign Citizens or Scientologists in the beginning. But enough time and memes and AM Radio Heads screaming at their audiences. Now its just a big part of the received wisdom of the crowd. In the wrong group, you’re weird if you don’t believe their dogma.

      If she plays ball with Trump, no one will believe her, and she’ll just end up suicided in a few months.

      If she plays ball with Trump, a bunch of the WSJ Trump-Epstein articles go away and we get back to calling Columbia students antisemitic for protesting genocide.

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        Wait, was the POW/MIA thing some kind of conspiracy? My dad always flew one of those when I was a kid. He was also a card carrying NRA member so it wouldn’t be that shocking.

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          Wait, was the POW/MIA thing some kind of conspiracy?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_POW/MIA_issue

          Considerable speculation and investigation have been devoted to a hypothesis that a significant number of missing U.S. service members from the Vietnam War were captured as prisoners of war by communist forces and kept as live prisoners after U.S. involvement in the war concluded in 1973. A vocal group of POW/MIA activists has maintained that there has been a concerted conspiracy by the Vietnamese and U.S. governments since then to hide the existence of these prisoners. The U.S. government has steadfastly denied that prisoners were left behind or that any effort has been made to cover up their existence. Popular culture has reflected the “live prisoners” theory, such as in the 1985 film Rambo: First Blood Part II. Several congressional investigations have looked into the issue, culminating with the largest and most thorough, the United States Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs of 1991–93, which found “no compelling evidence that proves that any American remains alive in captivity in Southeast Asia.”

          It was Ross Perot’s flagship issue during the early 80s

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          Yes the POW/MIA thing has it’s origins in a conspiracy theory that the US knew about thousands of American military members that were alive and in POW camps, but left them behind and lied about it.

          That is the origin. I’m sure a lot of people with the flags just think it’s a remembrance thing though.

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    How about the clintons and trump get to share a cell? That would be great. Also give them only 1 meal so they start fighting

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    If trump has even an iota of brainpower:

    No pardon. The List that doesn’t exist suddenly comes out and it is mostly prominent democrats outside of a few sacrificial lamb republicans. don jr would be a great choice since trump hates his guts even more than we do but it gives a reason for why he would have been hesitant to share it. It becomes vulnerability and compassion as an excuse for corruption. And he pardons don jr when he remembers to.

    But what will actually happen is maxwell gets the pardon and the list is just clinton and Obama a hundred times, in sharpie.

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    “You know, you should focus on Clinton. You should focus on the president of Harvard, the former president of Harvard. He should focus on some of the hedge fund guys — I’ll give you a list,” Trump said to the report’s query.

    A list, you say? And where did you get this list you will give us? From an Epstein client list perhaps? One that doesn’t exist but which1000s of FBI guys have searched through looking for references to you. A list that you are not on, but which was created, according to you, by Clinton, Biden, and Obama to smear you? That list?

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      No no, you misunderstand, Trump gives the list he himself created.

      He wants those people not just removed from his own life but also wishes them to endure demeaning and progressively worsening life altering events.

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    You are also allowed to shit on the floor, pick it up with your bare hands and smear it all over your face and hair. I’m not saying that he shouldn’t do it (That’s almost a surefire way to get him to actually follow through with something), but it might not be the best look.