• Ilixtze@lemmy.ml
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    3 days ago

    Lets dismantle this part by part:

    1: The one who came up with these idea that America needs to model itself after other countries is you. I don’t care about America. I want America to stop pressuring other governments to model themselves after them. I want American foreign policy to stop intervening with other countries and in particular the country where I live.

    2: It is rich that you are saying with a straight face that our citizens are falling to propaganda when your citizens have voted for two terms for a huckster, sex offender mentally challenged, child molester.

    3: There is a latent right wing coalition in my country that benefits from external intervention. We just had presidential elections a few years back and the very unpopular right wing candidate suffered a devastating loss despite all the very suspicious financial and media support they had. Which means that the population hasn’t entirely “succumbed to propaganda.” For our next elections, the republicans are already grooming a couple of candidates for our country. One of them is a Catholic conservative that has been spotted with Elon Musk and the rest of ghouls more than a couple of times.

    4: My country has very little contact with Russia. The ultra right wing coalition of my country does not meet with Putin, They meet with Conservatives from the USA. Maybe you are trying to impose your own biases on me.

    5: Lastly. I think America is hopeless. Your arguments are a good case study for why I feel you people are hopeless. Even in your failures and aggression there is a deep seated narcissism where It’s our turn to “show you the way”; We don’t have to show you shit. We don’t owe you anything. You have allowed the plutocracy poisoning your country to fester and I believe it is a problem that runs deeper than just Trump. You will keep shifting the blame, acting all high and mighty and fail to address the fact that you don’t even have a democracy anymore. And in the spirit of American exceptionalism even as those systemic issues are reaching critical mass you will continue to try and shift the blame. Nobody improves by neglecting self reflection. If Putin is pulling the strings of your right wing grifters, he has been enabled by the mounting of corruption that eliminated any legal checks and balances for your billionaire and political class. America has lost the ability to enforce it’s laws on it’s Oligarchy and you are surprised that an international web of criminals are eager to make connections with that dangerous emerging power?

    In the end this feels like a conversation about wounded national Ego. “Hey man don’t talk about my shortcomings, you all have it much worse.”