• EightBitBlood@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        From the FBI report in 2016: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/

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        The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.

        So pretending this didn’t lead to Trump in 2016 (and likely now) is what Americans should do according to you?

        Yeah. Let’s not at all remember how much saner things were before 2016. That has nothing to do with our national security being openly exploited to the point Russian propaganda is now appearing on our news stations.

        … the Russian state broadcaster RT orchestrated a massive scheme to influence the American public by secretly planting and financing a content creation company on U.S. soil,” said U.S. Attorney Damian Williams for the Southern District of New York.

        https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/two-rt-employees-indicted-covertly-funding-and-directing-us-company-published-thousands

        This is all just a coincidence, and definitley how our democracy has always been, right?

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            2 days ago

            Takes one to know one. Bad is still bad. Even if we’ve been the ones to do it. Now we’re too busy rounding up anyone that isn’t white because our government is a kakistocracy in full reverse. Thankfully we’re too stupid to destabilize much but ourselves now.

            But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t still be trying to help those most affected by it. Just because America designed the hose of misinformation that Russia is now using to destabilize world Democracy doesn’t mean we should passively accept it being blasted everywhere.

            I mean, if you feel we’re responsible, shouldn’t we be the ones to fix it if Russia clearly isn’t?

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              I just think a country should stop interfering with other countries if they dont like other countries interfering with them. Why would any country treat America fairly at this point? This adversary stuff needs to die out, there’s far more in common between Russian and american people than is different. Its absurd that simply being across the world from a group of people means you can characterize them however you want.

              We have the internet now and still people think they are some special group of people, its absurd. We need something to connect the average people of the world. When tiktok went down and people were on chinese social media, that was a good thing.

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                1 day ago

                This adversary stuff needs to die out.

                Then maybe don’t perpetuate it yourself by starting conversations with:

                Sounds to be right out of Americas destabilization play book.

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                    22 hours ago

                    You’re the only one saying it’s an attack, then getting defensive about it. Which tells me you’re an expert at getting offended by yourself.

                    People like that tend to get really offended when you point that out. Despite it being a basic observation, not an attack. So don’t accidently prove me right by going into a lot more detail about how offended you now are in your response.

                    That will definitley say a lot about you.