• Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    Being “state owned” isn’t seizing the means of production. Workers largely remain alienated from the fruits of their labor.

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      12 days ago

      Where? In a country with high quality of life, low cost of living, ample at-cost amenities, and a sub-60 retirement age? Is the material wealth of the nation distributed in an egalitarian manner Not Real Communism?

      What then is Communism? Is Communism when everyone has a 401k full of private equities (worker ownership)? Is it when they all own the same number of Bitcoins? Does everyone just need their name on their company letterhead?

      Marx would frown at confusing fictitious assets for material analysis.

      • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        12 days ago

        Yeah, that’s not what I’m getting at in the least. You have socialism when the workers receive the full benefits of their labor. You have communism when society is organized around providing what you can, and taking what you need. On a mass scale, I don’t see this happening anywhere in the world, but it does exist in smaller groups.