During the agents’ violent attack on a delivery worker Saturday morning in DC, bystanders repeatedly demanded the agents share their badge numbers. One of them—his face fully obscured by a black balaklava—eventually shot back, “Do I have to answer to you?”
“You guys are ruining this country. You know that, right?” one bystander said to the agents at one point during the incident. An agent, ironically clad in a rainbow face mask, replied “Liberals already ruined it.”
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Last week on stage at the Netroots conference in New Orleans, I spoke with Congresswoman Delia Ramirez (D-IL) about ICE: specifically that she believes it should be abolished. It’s a stance that’s considered far left, but after witnessing ICE and other federal agents in DC this week, abolishing ICE should be the baseline Democratic position.
“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.”
This makes my blood boil. While I appreciate the resistance the filmers showed, their response could have been better.
First and foremost, they should have dialed 9-1-1. “There is a group of masked and armed men assaulting and kindnapping a man off the street! They are trying to pull him into a black sedan with tinted windows! Send police now!”
After that, let them know in no uncertain terms that fascist pieces of shit are not welcome here. Call them out on their un-American actions
Ah yes, the proud Patriots protecting you from… your Doordash delivery. Such bravery!
crybabies
“ICE is a terrorist organization,” Ramirez told me. “It needs to be defunded and needs to be abolished.” It’s agents also need to be arrested, and put on a trial.
What did they arrest him for?
I’m guessing existing while brown.
Hey USA. How’s that 2nd Amendment working for you?
I’m glad you asked. We’re seriously thinking about arming the children. Only semi auto for the kids though and teachers get full auto. Cops will just carry grenade launchers and rockets now, for their safety. That should finally take care of the school shooting problem. We tried arming the cops and putting them in schools, but that just created a soiled underpants problem and didnt save any kids at all.
Who needs guns when you have memes and twitter, I mean x a platform owned by one of the enemies that people still use. /S
“🎶Land of the free, home of the brave🎵”
Feeling brave and free enough to stop a rapist, racist, paedo nazi from overtaking your country yet?
Or are you going to carry on waiting for someone else to do something?I love these posts because they never say exactly how to fix the situation.
Dude, if you could give me a step by step way to actually do it, I’d do it. I think we all would. You wanna sound all big and bad, but if you were over here, you’d be just as useless as the rest of us.
Die for it. I think that’s what’s stopping people… They don’t want to die for it. Even then it could be a decades long civil war.
Things are probably a lot worse than media makes it out to be already. And “saving” this country won’t be something done without sacrifice.
Arron bushnell died for it. Luigi sacrificed for it. Snowden fucked up his life for it.
What do the rest of us do… Post memes and talk like angry children as if it makes a difference.
Fact is, anything done, even the talking, makes the enemy stronger. Steal sharpens steal and war stays constant. So maybe people should just realize humanity isn’t actually special.
“They made earth on hell instead of heaven on earth.”
I’m still waiting for the trial, where I’ve agents were gunned down for self defense.
and there will be a trial regarding the right to defend yourself from masked unidentified gangs kidnapping people.
if the decision goes against fascist ideals, then the Supreme court will intervene. and the 2A nuts will suck fash cock and celebrate that it’s bad to raise against a tryranic government.
These guys are total pussies. Either shoot them or unmask them. They are already on camera so swarm them and pull down a few masks. Once you ID a few of them publicly, the rest will drop like flies.
No one wants to shoot anyone. We’re not murderers. So here we are, needing to think of some other way, and no one has ideas.
And lose your jobs, your homes, and your freedom in the process as you get prosecuted for assaulting federal agents where the authorities have an incentive to make an example out of you to deter future incidents.
I’m not expecting the world to change from holding hands and singing hymns, but insulting people (who already started confronting them instead of just pretending not to see) for not sacrificing more than I’d have to seems rather narrow-minded to me.
You’re going to lose all those things anyway.
If this continues unopposed, yes, but asking individuals in specific situations to sacrifice their own lives without an organized community does not sound reasonable to me.
Considering the mass surveillance well underway, the window to organize effectively has already closed. Doing so puts you in as much danger unmasking an agent and in this scenario they will just slap the terrorism label on it and that’s the end of the conversation.
It’s preferable to mass organize but it’s too late now. Keep fighting. We are going to lose but we are going to make this as difficult and expensive as possible anyway. They don’t get to be comfortable.
We’re not gonna lose, these fucks always fall apart sooner or later. Authoritarianism always falls.
Then do it in a big enough group that they wont dare prosecute you and show how many people opposed them, or try to isolate you and show how weak they are.
Making large groups of people that all agree with you spontaneously appear at a location is typically not super easy.
True! But everyone hates ice.
Unfortunately, a large percentage of the voting population seems to support them, which is part of how we got here in the first place. The best argument for a free and open democracy is what happens with any of the alternatives, but people have a tendency to forget, and opportunists are great at using difficult times to garner support.
Go the fuck outside.
Everyone hates ice. The people who don’t are afraid of outside.
A Quinnipiac University poll showed voters disapproved of how ICE was enforcing immigration laws, 57% to 39%. ICE’s numbers on immigration were even slightly worse than Trump’s.
An NPR-PBS News-Marist College poll last month showed 54% of Americans said ICE had “gone too far” in enforcing immigration laws.
And a CNN poll released last weekend showed Americans opposed Trump’s expanded ICE funding, 53-31%.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/23/politics/ice-unpopularity-trump-analysis
Could turn facial recognition back on them…
They’re doing that in LA
Dude is right but for the wrong reasons. LIberalism serves and reinforces hegemony. Liberalism pushes the overton window so far to the right that fascism seems moderate.
Liberalism <—> Fascism.
What? BS! Is that why the Nazis arrested the German liberals and sent them to the concentration camps?
I get that liberals had their part to play, but can we stop putting the onus of fascism on liberals and blame the fucking fascists for fascism for a change?
But muh division
I always thought it was fight the right, but it turns out we’re more interested in dog piling the ineffectual centrists and splitting hairs amongst one another. No wonder we never make any headway.
Even if your definition was taken that’s not what he meant
Bigotry and lack of decency ruined the country but it was already ruined it was built on blood repe and kidnapping and forced labor
Well that’s one thing we agree on
He must have left his fedora at home.
What’s the symbolism of a fedora?
Incel culture. Typically goes with the scruff from attempted beard growth on double chin.
Juvenile. Pissed off that someone might hold them accountable. Not much these people hate more than oversight and someone getting in the way of their violence.
How dare liberals encourage education and renewable energy! And infrastructure and foreign trade! And civil liberties and reasonable prices!
Wow that sounds familiar, where have I heard language like that before?
Hi finitebanjo, I see you dodged your last ban by choosing the same name on a new instance and rejoining. Bold of you to pick the same handle.
4 entire pages of modlog actions on you, wow. https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=9867145
Well welcome back. On to page 5 of the modlog I guess.
Every republican since Bush 2?
And Tankies
This country is going to need a new level of cult deprogramming to get anywhere. I won’t see it in my lifetime.
Maybe this time we hang all of the confederates and not let any live so this shit doesnt happen again?
Agreed. As seen with my nation and Germany, the Confederates and Nazis went on to raise Klanners and Stormfronters. ICE should be trialed and executed as a class, else they will escape the justice that they deserve. It isn’t kind, but necessary.
They chose to embrace evil, and should die because of the sins they have earned.
Apparently, the Nuremberg trials executed less than 210 Nazis. Considering how many Jews and other peoples have been slaughtered, that is a bullshit result. Trial by individual isn’t sufficient for institutionalized war crimes.
Deport them to an island not that high above sea level.
Absolutely. There is a movie about a housekeeper during the holocaust who hid Jews in the basement of the commander’s house she worked in. When he eventually found out, she bargained with him, said she would be his mistress if he would say nothing and let them live.
After the war, when the dust settled, the commander was turned away by his wife and children for sheltering the Jews, and it was the Jews themselves he had allowed to live who took him in.
There were many people living everyday lives that had drank the coolaid and saw the extermination of the Jews as absolutely necessary and considered anyone who disagreed a traitor. Those people went on to raise children and teach them that sick way of thinking.
What’s that movie called?
Honestly, it sucks that execution of ICE as a class has to be considered: it isn’t unlike the cruelty they inflict on people who didn’t deserve to be abused nor killed.
That is where the distinction lies: deservedness.
Advocating for almost the same thing is icky. I cannot be said to be innocent, for supporting this method to end the madness. 😞
If they can commit heinous acts for the Greater Evil why can’t we do a fraction of it for the Greater Good?
The difference comes down to who makes up the class. What criteria is used. In this case it is personal choices that landed them on it, so I really don’t see anything morally wrong here.
