As a Californian, Newsom is just the other side of Trump’s coin. He has no principles. He puts his finger in the wind before he does anything. I’d vote for literally any other Democrat first. It’s not about him being a Progressive or not. It’s that he’d pursue literally any position if it was advantageous to him, including hard right ones.
There is a hot car with an infant inside and parent no where in site. Should you break the window and save the child? Breaking a window is bad so we shouldn’t do it. They just shouldn’t have locked the baby in the car. I’m not going to vote for vandalism.
-protest non-voter
OH boy I sure do love purity checks. It’s worked out so great for us in the past.
Why is this shit always all or nothing, goddamn. It works for maga because they have no nuance and it’s all groupthink, but the rest of the nation is far more complex and won’t just go for a hard left progressive in the same way. It needs to happen but it won’t happen in a single election.
I am in no way endorsing newsome, but at least he’s doing LITERALLY ANYTHING.
Exactly, people tried that shit with Carney up here and we all knew we were not getting a progressive PM but we sure as hell didn’t get a right wing mini trump.
Could we have gotten better? For sure but desperate times man, desperate times…
Yeah I might not vote for him in the primary but its not a deal breaker.
Don’t care. Way better than fascism and besides, the tweets are hilarious.
He also thinks children shouldn’t be allowed to transition genders.
Ending purity tests doesn’t mean we can’t criticize or demand better of someone.
I agree with that…? People should be allowed to transition but with parental/guardian permission or are legal adults (18, in the US). Is that considered right-wing take? I thought I was a moderate!
Reddit just called me a Republican plant for not liking newsom. Before the primaries have even started. Pisses me off
Remember when we were told that we could criticize Dems during non-election years?
Or primaries were the time to have debate, but I guess that too has gone out the window with the DNC tiping the scales since 2016.
Clearly you are in favor of an oceanic based monarchy.
It’s the “if you don’t like Biden you’re a Russian troll” all over again. It’s started.
It’s happening here too
…you expect the dems to run a progressive?
I fully expect to see a repeat of 2020. The party establishment will be split between Elderly Nepo-Ghoul With Fanatical Partisan Following and Young Pretty Boy Who Says Progressive Things To A Room Of Millennial Age Investment Bankers.
On the edge of the debate, you’ll see a few genuinely progressive leftist voices saying things like “We should be against genocide” and “Homelessness is easily solveable if we put forward even the least amount of political capital” and “Granting DC statehood is the most obviously smart and moral Act any future Congress can pass”. Maybe even a few “Medicare 4 All is still a good idea” die-hards shouting from the extremely cheap seats.
And then one (or both) of the insider candidates will pick up a few of the more popular slogans as their own. This, while denouncing any of the fringe voices as Anti-White Racists, Politically Toxic Far-Left Anti-Capitalists, Eco-Terrorists, and Fat Ugly Unfuckable Losers.
Come primary day, said fringe leftists will do shockingly well in some of the early states. At this point, the centrist candidates will panic, drop the kabuki of intra-party squabbling, align behind whomever the current Party Elder tells them to select, scream that a vote for Fringe Candidate is a vote for Fascism, blanket the airwaves with a deafening smear campaign, disavow every nice thing they said up until this point, and maybe squeak in to the convention by a few points on a technicality about who gets to be Superdelegates.
The Convention will be a coronation of a rotten corporate homunculus. Any leftist disgusted by the process or the annointed candidate will be denounced as a Far-Right Foreign Plant designed to undermine the fundamental principles of democracy itself. Said rotten homunculus will pick a Token Minority/Progressive as their running mate, then immediately dump that person to the sidelines and campaign exclusively with the reanimated corpse of Rush Limbaugh.
Trump wins by a ten point margin in 2028. Leftists are blamed for the loss. Democrats vow to purge their party of anything resembling progressive values or human decency even harder. By 2032, they’re running a Bitcoin Billionaire in an uncontested primary, because it’s unreasonable to trust an election process that’s been infiltrated by Hamas.
This is exactly why they’ll run him.
Listen, I know we are the tiny bubble, so posting this here has no negative effect — but 2028 has to be about people on the right and left joining together to repudiate fascism and totalitarianism. Who cares about the past under these circumstances. I hope that Newsom’s lack of prog cred gives him cred with the pugs who hate Trump. Or are lukewarm on Trump.
The right wants this. You are hopelessly deluded if you think they will lift a finger to prevent it. Double if they have to work with the libs they despise.
The right does not think this is fascism. So, there goes that fantasy.
There has to be economic pain so bad that they can’t refute it anymore. That’s our only hope.
That or Trump dying before the end of his term.
2028 has to be about people on the right and left joining together to repudiate fascism and totalitarianism
not pictured are all the ignorant morons that believe billionaire news media that sanewashes the people those pictured in hoods follow.
reality has nuance, removing it hurts us all.
The Harris thinking Cheney would sway voters pipeline again? Oof.
We know. He’s a sociopath
Why, what did he do? I keep hearing hyperbolic statements with no facts that make me think Russian bots are responsible.
Sadly so many people are okay with ignoring it because it’s not trump
He’s not worse than Trump. So is the solution to not vote? Putin, is that you?
here’s a terrible dem candidate we shouldn’t vote for him in primary
what are you Russian?
The only tool in the establishment Democrat defender toolbox is pillory all opposition as Russian disinformation bots or shills. It’s been their trusty go to for a decade now. They can’t stop beating a dead horse
Nobody said shit about a primary. Try again asshole.
Where else would people vote for him?
In a fucking general election. I get it. Russian education probably hasn’t explained the subtleties of how us elections work. Maybe you’ll get better at it before you’re sent to the front lines.
So there’s not gonna be a primary?
And this is amazing how quickly people resort to personal or racism
Today Texas Democrats will be present for the session that will gerrymander their state, they could have stayed out of the state to keep it from passing, but the decided to return and allow it to pass.
The gerrymandering that Gavin says will happen in California is going to be voted on in November, it will probably not happen.
This chain of events will result in Republicans gaining extra control in the house/senate, because of the choices and lies made by Democrats.
The gerrymandering that Gavin says will happen in California is going to be voted on in November, it will probably not happen.
I will say this. They aren’t waiting until November 2026 to vote on it. So they’re at least pretending to take this seriously.
But I’ll also say that some right-wing court is going to decide the ballot measure is unconstitutional. And the California Dems are going to throw up there hands, announce collectively “Oh well we tried!”, and then find a way to blame Transgender people for the Permanent Republican House Majority.
probably wont happen, what makes you say that?
It’s been the cycle for the last 40 or so years
The way we stop the cycle is to stop it
Leadership will pick the least objectionable neolib to promote the shit out of, and they’ll end up gambling - again - that voters care more about sticking it to Trump than achieving real relief from our capitalistic hellscape.
Newsom’s only redeeming qualoty is his ability to get under Trump’s skin. Literally everything else is focus-group tested neo-liberalism.
Early to be predicting anything but dems are fucked if Newsom is gonna be their guy.
Wow, never good enough is it. This is why progressives fail to accomplish much.
Backing big oil list my vote
Hopefully, the Democratic Party will go the way of the Whigs, and take Newsom with them. I want a genuinely good party whose mission is to overhaul America in all ways. UBI, a renewed Constitution, universal healthcare, the extinction of ICE and border patrol with minimized police, ect.
The America we have is a sick creature, that cannot be saved by Geronocrats.
Damn this comment section reads like it’s sponsored by the Newsom 2028 campaign.
History repeating.
