I think you didn’t get what he said because you have no clue what nationalistic political movements are. It’s not about borders. You can have and enforce borders and still be inclusive.
The Pope is entirely true on this. We are replaying the early last century mistakes if we don’t care about it.
Well, the quote I was responding to used the words “open borders” specifically. I may not understand the meaning of the term, as it is being used here, but hopefully you can understand my confusion. I didn’t realize that “open borders” meant “you can have and enforce borders.” I proceeded on the assumption that those two states exist in opposition to one another.
I don’t know for sure but I suspect he means “open borders” in the context of welcoming/helping refugees and not treating immigrants with such xenophobia
Then they’re dealt with in the same way anyone else would be if they tried to do that; I’m not sure what your point is. Border “security” against individual crossing and national defense against an enemy state are two completely different things.
Borders do serve a purpose, though. Should Ukraine open their borders to Russians? There are legitimate reasons for wanting to keep other people out.
That is a valid point…if you think refugees are an organized army attacking you…are they?
I think you didn’t get what he said because you have no clue what nationalistic political movements are. It’s not about borders. You can have and enforce borders and still be inclusive.
The Pope is entirely true on this. We are replaying the early last century mistakes if we don’t care about it.
Well, the quote I was responding to used the words “open borders” specifically. I may not understand the meaning of the term, as it is being used here, but hopefully you can understand my confusion. I didn’t realize that “open borders” meant “you can have and enforce borders.” I proceeded on the assumption that those two states exist in opposition to one another.
I don’t know for sure but I suspect he means “open borders” in the context of welcoming/helping refugees and not treating immigrants with such xenophobia
If they’ll accept Ukrainian law and, you know, not attempt to take over the country, yes why not? Open borders don’t contradict self-defense.
And if the Russians don’t accept those terms? Or, say that they accept them to gain entry only to then carry out a campaign of slow annexation?
Then they’re dealt with in the same way anyone else would be if they tried to do that; I’m not sure what your point is. Border “security” against individual crossing and national defense against an enemy state are two completely different things.