• kamen@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Yeah, but modern economy wants you to buy a new one ideally every year, so it doesn’t work for that.

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        7 days ago

        Everything else? Right now I think advances in battery tech are what would help the most.

        And maybe you could label Uranium and Thorium as “fossil” fuels if you want to be picky about it, but I think nuclear fission is the “bridge fuel” that we needed when we were sold natural gas instead.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Too many definitional loopholes.

    We should restrict plastic severely and go back to paper, metal, glass, wood, and natural fiber cloth for all product packaging. It can be done, because that’s how we did it before plastic.

  • altphoto@lemmy.today
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    I’ll give you an idea…my wife keeps all the thin plastic food containers from when we bring food from a restaurant. Now we have hundreds of reusable containers. We don’t need to buy new plastic containers or plates!

    So instead of selling the food in thin containers that eventually become planters or paint buckets, why not let people bring their own Tupperware or plates from home?

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    I think most people agree with this idea. There are two basic problems preventing it.

    1. There is a giant gap between what people believe they should be doing and what they’ll actually do voluntarily when faced with the slightest inconvenience.

    Basically you have to make people do inconvenience things. You can’t ask.

    For example single-use shopping bags. Everyone understands why they are a problem. Every store sells a reusable alternative. Recyclable paper bags have always been an option. But unless it’s regulated, people continue using disposable single use plastic shopping bags.

    1. The problem isn’t just what can be recycled it’s what WILL be recycled.

    Imagine going through construction debris trying to separate plaster, wood-lathing wire-lathing, screws, and insulation into separate piles for disposal.

    Picture the average grandma disassembling a sump pump to make sure plastic rubber Teflon and metal materials all end up in separate recyclable piles.

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      No where does it say that consumers should be required to do these things. Just that if the only end of life possibility for a product is the land fill, then we should restrict it’s manufacturing. Obviously there would need to be exceptions for things like medical needs or accessibility accomodations.

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      7 days ago

      And this is why bags are no longer free where i live and cost up to 40c a piece. People quickly stopped using them haha
      The inconvenience of the price became larger than always having a reusable bag in the car or bike hehe

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        We banned them here too. I always forget my reusable bags and toss a loose assortment of goods in my trunk to tumble around.

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          Oh, i get one of the cardboard boxes the shops let you take then haha. That and i have 3, reusable bags in the car and a collapsable plastic box to put my shoppings into xD

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    8 days ago

    Total lifetime cost and emissions are more important. Recycling something doesn’t mean its total pollution is free.