• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    So I’ve been thinking about this, and I think he’s going to come back saying it’s mothers breast milk, and not a contaminant in it, but the very nature of itself.

    To solve the issue, everyone will need to migrate to using a special infant formula only Nestlé has.

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        Honestly the only reason Germany ever got the damned thing is because you guys went nuts post industrialization, otherwise it’s a question on if Britain or the USA would’ve kept it. Shit like Wounded Knee was in living memory until but a scant few decades ago, same thing with a bunch of the shit Britain pulled in India and South Africa.

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    18 days ago

    Aside from politics, do scientists actually know what causes autism? Sorry if this question is ignorant, but I have no clue about that.

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      There are many theories, but nothing really replicable. Genetics definitely play a role, and air pollution is implicated pretty heavily, but we don’t have a “do this and you get autism” yet. There could be more than one cause, too - biology is messy.

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        It’s also worth noting that acetaminophen is pretty much the ONLY OTC painkiller you’re allowed to take while pregnant (other than baby aspirin as a preventative if you’re high risk for pre-eclampsia), so I strongly suspect a sizeable majority of people end up using it at least once during pregnancy. It’s common enough that I’d imagine separating correlation from causation on that one might be especially difficult.

        In all likelihood the root cause of ASD is multifactoral and appears to be at least partially genetic.

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          It’s also used to treat things that have also shown potential links to ASD, like certain viral infections.

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        17 days ago

        The conclusion from meta analysis reviews of ASD research on environmental causes is that none of it is conclusive, and most of it is poor quality. This is a chronic problem with epidemiology.

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      18 days ago

      It’s a complex genetic disorder, where many genes influence an outcome that generates a spectrum of disease. While at one end of the spectrum it can be debilitating at the other end it produces some of the best minds in STEM. In other words, there is an evolutionary advantage in humans to have autism in the population.

      This is a very complex genetic disorder from birth. There is definitely is not an environmental cause. By try explaining this to a guy that swims in sewage.

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    18 days ago

    As with any great modern scientific discovery, nothing is shared, or can be guessed from existing evidence, until the great reveal!

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    18 days ago

    During the Cabinet meeting, Kennedy pointed to his oft-repeated evidence of environmental factors contributing to autism rates, noting how diagnosis rates have significantly jumped since the 1970s.

    Lol yeah no shit. Medicine has improved a lot since the 70s. We can more easily diagnose the behaviour, so naturally the number of cases is going to be higher than it was in the 70s.

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      18 days ago

      Except there is some evidence that pollution can contribute to it. He’s the epitome of “A broken clock is right twice a day.”

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        That could very well be noise. Autism rates have gone up because more people are checked and, far more importantly, what is diagnosed as autism spectrum disorder has expanded GREATLY in even just the last decade. The greatest increase in rates, by an enormous factor, has occurred in those with very mild to borderline symptoms, the rates of more severe disabilities having effectively been static.

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    18 days ago

    If they had actually discovered a cause of autism, or even substantially advanced research in that area they would have announced it right away, rather than engaging in this hype cycle bs like they are trying to defraud a venture capitalist.

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      More to the point, we already know the cause of autism; genetics. This isn’t new, it’s not some shocking discovery, it’s been known about for ages. Most of the research at this point is focused on the interconnections between autism, ADHD, dyslexia and dysphraxia, which all show a high propensity for genetic clustering; basically if one person in a family has one of them, the odds of the others being present in the same or other members shoots up massively. That’s really interesting and suggests they might all just be different manifestations of the same underlying genetic condition.

      The whole notion that autism has a “cause” is just anti-vaxxer nonsense concocted by a fraud doctor (that’s not an accusation, it’s a fact; he was stripped of his medical license after it was shown that his “research” was a sham, and that he literally tortured innocent children to concoct his fake results) feeding on the insecurities of parents who want someone to blame for their child being different rather than just accepting that sometimes that’s just how people do be.

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        It’s so obvious just looking at my family. We’re successful because of the neurodivergence more than anything.

        But I always have to remind people, there is a darker reason behind the conservative outcry against autism though. We do not respect authority on the basis of authority alone. There has to be a valid reason. Holding a gun to my head probably won’t make me do what you demand, and if it does, you’ll shoot me anyway because I’ll be slow and complain the whole time vowing to take the steps to make you as miserable as you are making me.

        For whatever reason, they cannot comprehend it. They lobotomized people over it. They executed people over it. They sterilized, they institutionalized. Everything for us has to have an answer to “why.” And it deeply offends them.

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          Ain’t that the fucking truth.

          In a weird way autism may have partly spared me from a lot of mental trauma and issues. Growing up I went through a lot of things that tends to people having a lot of self doubt, anxiety, people pleasing tendencies, etc. I knew from a very young age though (maybe not as concretely as I do now) that what was happening to me wasn’t my fault. Like sure I knew I was a kid and that certain things about me were difficult, but it was very clear to me when the things adults did made no sense or were hypocritical. That’s not to say I didn’t end up with other issues like poor social skills, but that still seems a lot better than the previously mentioned options.

          Also, I’m still wanting to know when I get all the taxes I paid back since we apparently aren’t ever supposed to be paying taxes.

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        Hey hey, it is still possible that there are environmental factors that make the genetic causes more or less likely to result in full autism. Kennedy certainly hasn’t found any of those though.

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          A lot of the symptoms of that cluster are actually maladaptations. Our brains try and solve 1 problem, but create 2 more. In solving those, it makes even more. It’s part of the reason that they manifest so differently in different people.

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    18 days ago

    I’m placing my bet they claim something like “testing for autism causing autism”… they’ll ban the tests. Problem “solved”!

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      As I pointed out in another comment, no guessing is required. It’s genetics. We know it’s genetics. That’s been pretty self-evident from the data for decades. It’s just anti-vaxxers who refuse to accept that answer and prefer some made up woo by a quack doctor who tortured children.

      Sorry, my bad, two quack doctors. The other sells his blood as an autism “cure”.

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    17 days ago

    Having known my husband for over 10 years now, it’s having an inherently higher coolness than the rest of us; the world at large isn’t prepared to deal this fact.

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      inherently higher coolness

      Ah, autism is nature self-correcting to fight climate change.