• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.comBanned
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      23 days ago

      Do you wish the same for western countries, most of which support the genocide in Palestine through the economic, diplomatic and military ties with Israel?

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    23 days ago

    Supporting Iran limits the ability of Israel to commit to their genocide, support Israel only enhances their capability to genocide and supporting neither only benefits Israel which make use of their partnership with the west

    Hate Iran all you want, despise them, that’s fine, but we need to pick anything at this point when the alternative is Israel

    It might be better for the gays in Israel, but what about the gays in Palestine, or simply the people within Gaza?

    You can reform a state to treat gay people like humans, you can’t reform a genocidal state

  • Deflated0ne@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Nobody is out there crowing about the superiority of Iran. Or how Iran is sooooooo great.

    It’s just schadenfreude. It’s a quadruple heroine overdose of schadenfreude directly in our veins. We’ve screamed and cried and protested and called reps and done everything we could for 2 years while watching a genocide live on TV. For 2 years.

    It’s very cathartic to see that evil genocidal pedophile colony get its shit rocked. I cheered watching a hypersonic missile hit the Israeli Pentagon and I’ll keep cheering.

    Israel hit first. They called it preemptive but it was premeditated. Big difference. They punched above their weight now the hit dog is hollering. The very moment Israel sues for peace and comes to the table with concessions I’ll support the violence coming to a negotiated end. And not a moment before. Until then. Pound them into fucking sand. Twist the goddamn knife.

    Chump can get involved if he wants but I won’t go die for Israel. Not for all the money held by the Forbes 500. If they call a draft I’ll dodge it.

    Iran has the right to defend itself.

  • kibiz0r@midwest.social
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    24 days ago

    Is it possible to cheer an action but not the actor?

    Like, if someone swims out to save a drowning kid but it turns out they were only there to dump a dead body, can I still be glad they saved the kid?

  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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    23 days ago

    People are cheering on Iran out of pure spite, not out of genuine support for Iran.

    The American people are tired of our government spending out tax dollars to support a genocide and then gaslighting us about it when we call them out. They are also persecuting dissenters on it. This has happened under both Biden and Trump, though Trump has leaned more on the persecution. We are fucking sick of it.

    There is satisfaction in seeing someone stand up to genocidal Israel, even if the party doing so is despicable in their own right. I think people would greatly prefer getting behind a western democracy taking a stand, but we’re at a point where people will take what they can get. Especially with it being clear that the aforementioned western democracies aren’t going to do shit against genocidal Israel.

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    23 days ago

    Yeah watching Iran and Israel fight I don’t really feel bad for either side. Does suck for the civilians in the middle though.

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    23 days ago

    It’s pretty “funny” the amount of people who imagine this as some “foreign conflict” between “two sides”, when it’s a direct continuation of USAian imperialism. It’s not surprising that brainwashed libs are hating on an “official enemy”. Libs and their politicians have supported these attacks on Iran for decades.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

  • Lucelu2@lemmy.zip
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    23 days ago

    Yah, I have no dog in this fight. I just don’t want to get drawn into it. I am over the ME for good. No good actors.

    However, I wish my nation would welcome refugees, the innocents who are caught up in this and need refuge and asylum. So… the US sucks too for not offering it. I cared for a young woman from Iraq, a refugee, the other day. She spent 8 years in a refugee camp in Turkey (d/t Trump immigration/refugee bans) before finally coming here. She has 2 children, a worried husband and she is pretty sick now. I hope she can get the surgery she needs.