Exclusive: critics accuse ICE of ‘outrageous’ and ‘unlawful’ detention of Korean man

At least one of the Korean workers swept up in a massive immigration raid on a Hyundai Motor factory site in Georgia last week was living and working legally in the US, according to an internal federal government document obtained by the Guardian.

Officials then “mandated” that he agree to be removed from the US despite not having violated his visa.

The document shows that immigration officials are aware that someone with a valid visa was among the people arrested during the raid at the Hyundai factory and taken to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) detention for removal proceedings, where the people arrested remained on Tuesday before expected deportation flights back to South Korea.

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    2 days ago

    Instead of being happy that a foreign company is spending billions to move manufacturing to the USA, they do targeted raids and flash deportations without due process

    If I were the CEO I would immediately shut down any new factory plans out of spite

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      Not even out of spite. Out of Practical concerns about the smooth and uninterrupted operation of the factory. Any time they need to send an engineer from Korea or need to have inspections etc their workers are at risk of detainment. Even if they had a100% American workforce which is unlikely, they’d need to send staff from Korea every now and then. The US just told them there are better countries to operate in where such things won’t happen.

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    2 days ago

    unlawful

    I mean, it definitely should be, but if some idiot asshole ICE agent thought this Korean was Filipino it seems like our Supreme Court would be ok with this

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      I don’t trust an ICE thug to know the difference between night and day, let alone different asians/pacific islanders.

      The ONLY Asians I’d expect them to be able to identify are russians.

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    Now good 'ol American automakers can take over and make 'good old boy subpar shitmobiles that no-one outside of USA would ever want, if they were ever even allowed to be sold outside USA since the safety standards are so bad.

    Unsafe at any speed.

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    [Redacted] has accepted voluntary departure despite not violating his B1/B2 visa requirements.

    That is the only sane move in this case. Why would you want to stay? If they don’t want the trainings and finalizations then be my guest, you can do it yourself.

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      I honestly have no idea why anyone here on a visa would still be here at this point. I get that it’s not easy to uproot your life on a dime, but also, it’s not that easy to go to a modern Gulag with no hope of release or due process, either.

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        Because money, sadly.

        An automotive factory worker averages around $25/hour in the US, or an annual salary of around 50K.

        An automotive factory worker in South Korea averages around 17,000 KRW/hour, or an annual salary of around 36 mil KRW, which is roughly $12/hour or 25K annual.

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          That says nothing about standard of living though, if those 50k are all going to highly priced health insurance, rent, and groceries, then you might be better off on the Korean salary.

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            South Korea is infamous for very high cost of living, especially considering the very low salaries.

            You can check numbeo for more specific comparisons, but Seoul and Busan are only 20% and 30% cheaper in terms of cost of living compared to Atlanta GA, respectively. Not nearly enough to make up the salary difference.

            The fact there there are migrant workers already tells you the situation. People’s behaviour generally follow economic incentives. There’s a reason why South Korea is struggling with emigration.

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        I believe all of the people sent to CECOT have now been released, right? It seems like that specific tactic was proving too blatantly illegal and unpopular for them to keep going with.

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          I wasn’t talking about CECOT exclusively. The Gulag was a whole nationwide archipelago of various small-scale detention facilities, which parallels what Trump is doing more or less to a T.

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            I don’t think it’s really fair to call immigration dentention facilities in the US gulags quite yet. They are abhorrent but they’re still subject to oversight and generally people are held there temporarily. So while there are certainly human rights violations, I can understand why someone might hope they can wait until an improvement in the political situation if they are settled here.

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                Human rights abuses, abhorrent, etc. but gulags were only one step above death camps. They killed millions of people. We aren’t seeing that level of violence and cruelty yet.

                But I mean I hear you, we’re not too far from that it seems.

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                  Yeah. I mean it’s not a competition. They can both be horrifying things that need to be stopped.

                  “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

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        What’s interesting is that the average American worker isn’t educated enough to perform a modern factory job. Don’t even ask whether we are producing enough doctors, scientists, engineers, teachers, lawyers, and many other professionals to stay competitive in today’s world.

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          Every so often, something hits me that makes me think I need to get the fuck out of here. Not just because of the political situation (although that is a factor, I think that “stay and fight” is probably the right answer there). But it just seems like overall the culture and the people and the nature of the place is setting itself up for a massive collapse which there is not a lot of way to prevent… even in times of no real external threats, and right now there are some big ones of those looming.