The conservative movement has built its case against gender-affirming care on the authority of anachronistic, faulty clinical research.

  • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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    17 days ago

    Every single thing you said there is your twisted interpretation of what I have said because I’ve never said anything to such effect and in fact have at various times doubled down on the fact that I agree that the treatments w heave now are the best and therefore they should continue. But we should strive to know more and to find more, it’s what science does, it’s what humans do.

    I’m opposed to the idea that we know all there is to know about it and that we should not inquire further because it makes you uncomfortable that we might discover that you simply have a brain thats wired differently. Do you think that will change a lot other than opening the door to other courses of treatment? I know why it would make you uncomfortable but frankly the sheer opposition to the simple notion of investigating it makes you look as completely disingenuous when you cite science to back up any of your claims. I already said before that the ideal scenario is that all options are presented to the person and they choose the one that’s best for them if such an alternative treatment were possible.

    And you keep making baseless assumptions about me, putting words in my mouth and attacking me when I have not once personally attacked you. With that I have no need for further evidence that you in fact do not have proof to conclusively disprove what I’m suggesting, meanwhile I have provided proof that what I’m saying has some basis to it.

    And frankly I want to get pushback when I make any claim, because I’m always open to changing my mind when provided with evidence. But all people have offered is mental gymnastics to avoid acknowledging that there might be an actual condition underlying. Like imagine if ADHD people made a fuss about people not researching the roots of what ails them? This is how his sounds to me.

    Again if it were simple human variance, there would be a biological mechanism to accommodate for it and it would not cause severe psychological distress. Even with social acceptance transitioning is necessary in most cases, so there’s clearly something not right with how the brain and the body are wired. Someone else posted an article citing that humans sexuality can be a spectrum in the sense that some people who absolutely look like the phenotype representative of one of the sexes might still have genetic characteristics of the opposite sex, and I readily accept that as an almost obvious fact. But if that’s the case, why do some among us face some kind of distress for not exhibiting the characteristics of a particular sex while others have no obvious mental distress walking around having chromosomes that suggest dual sexuality? Why are there androgynous people that exhibit absolutely no disphoria?

    Like I’ve read intersex people describe their gender dysphoria and to me it sounds different from the gender dysphoria suffered by non intersex transgender individuals . Because for the latter it’s more based on not being the gender they’ve been treated as or were assigned at birth while the former is about not identifying with the body they have. That to me suggests that there might be different roots of dysphoria and that one of them in particular might be neurological. But how do we prove or disprove something if we do not research it?

    • toomanypancakes@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      Buddy, I’m not attacking you. I’m explaining. That’s why you’re getting pushback. Take from that what you want, but that’s how you’re coming across in my view.