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      It’s what they’re hoping for: civilians starts firing, giving them a reason for martial law, no elections can be held, no freedom of movement etc. Good luck!

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        This is a very classic fallacy. In reality, if you dont fight back things will get worse anyways until nobody has the power to fight back. The longer you wait the harder it will be. Staying peaceful only makes sense as long as your opponent is peaceful. If they kill people and you dont fight back, then they take that as permission to kill more people.

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          General Strike now! Waiting only gives them time to weed out those that are willing to strike and cause trouble.

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            I see calls for it, but is there a start date and a primer on what it’d entail going around?

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              IIRC some of the big unions are timing contract expirations to line up for a strike in 2028, but IMO we can’t wait that long.

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                I think there are some legal limits to who can call a general strike and NOT go to prison. (Kind of doesn’t matter right now, as one can go to prison for being seen by the wrong people.)

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                I agree that it’s waaay too long. I should look into it myself once I’m out of work. If I find more, I’ll link you!

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            The trick with that is there needs to be significant financial backing to keep people fed even during a short strike.

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              You’re confusing a want with a need. Resistance doesn’t come without risk. The longer we wait the more we have to risk. Many are already going hungry and more will join them November 1st. If you wait for them to be fed before striking you’ll never start.

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                I’m saying that is why a lot of people won’t strike. “I have kids to feed today” will always beat “this will create a better world someday”.

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            I imagine many are like me and a general strike is absolutely terrifying as we would be fired immediately and the job market in the US it at it’s all time worst. I work in a at will state and my company is small, they would have no problem firing me and the rest of my workers wont strike as they are MAGA. So i’m stuck to protesting.

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          “Staying peaceful” and “fighting back” aren’t mutually exclusive. Anyone who thinks nonviolent tactics don’t work hasn’t read up on their history (East Timor, Philippines, etc.). Every time ICE shows up to pepper spray cops and shoot at priests, local police gets more pissed, and they drive a wedge between local and federal law enforcement, weakening the administration’s ability to project power. Don’t underestimate that opportunity.

          That being said, current actions are far more symbolic than transformative. No kings protests don’t do anything on their own, but could easily be leveraged into an enabler of things like boycotts and general strikes which will have a strong impact.

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        I’m pretty sure it’s MAGA pushing this message so people don’t rise up.

        You really only have two choices.

        One: Let them continue to trample your rights and freedoms and at one point they’ll just declare martial law to “clean up the undesirables”.

        Two: Fight back and hopefully take the country back before it’s too late.

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        Yes, the super prepared, intelligent, and amazing forethought that this administration has would be prepared to take on a massive and over-armed populace of citizens.

        The sheer size and population of the United States make it logistically unfeasible for the military to take over all civilian government functions nationwide. A full takeover would require a massive and sustained deployment of troops across thousands of jurisdictions, overwhelming military resources. A large-scale military takeover would likely be met with widespread civil disobedience, protests, and resistance from the public. Americans have a deep-seated tradition of suspicion toward military involvement in domestic affairs, a sentiment that would likely lead to widespread noncompliance. Military forces are trained for combat and security operations, not for managing complex civilian systems. They lack the specific expertise needed to run government agencies, manage infrastructure, operate courts, and handle public health crises, which would likely lead to chaos and mismanagement.

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          I mean, yes, it would be hard and almost impossible for these guys to pull off, but I don’t think you’re understanding that they will have the class traitors (police) in almost every place on their side, AND 33-60% of the population on their side. When fox news and the local politicians they elected tell them everything will be just fine, let them handle it, the chuds will not rise up except against ‘those demonrat neighbors.’

          In blue states and cities, sure, they’ll have a few problems, but they’ll do exactly what they did in iraq/afghanistan and interface with/rule through the local politicians that support them, and unlike elsewhere, they’ll know exactly who to trust (it’s not hard to see the [R] next to a politician’s name AND get their voting record] to be assholes. This just lets them give power to the dick who will use it to attack anything they consider ‘other’ in their local government bodies.

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            i’m just going to put out there that the last time the us military won a war against an entrenched guerrilla force was in 1902. This is with a the largest most armed and equipped force in the world, uninterruptible supply lines and a secure military industrial complex and effectively infinate money.

            if one were to grow within the us, the military would have the added issues of difficulty in collecting taxes, defending the neigh limitless strategic and venerable assets that are currently defended by nothing more than civility, and a pinky swear, and being VASTLY outgunned. there is also the problem of mass desertion after being ordered to do what we did to the populations surrounding insurgencies.

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            I don’t know about that. Those whackos on Jan. 6th had no problem trying to harm the police that got in their way. And they will have a lot less people on their side if they have tanks rolling down our streets while a subset of the population starves.

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      Also, volunteer near you! Food distribution on-site, meal delivery, meal prep, etc. Donations are very important, but ultimately they need the labor, too.

      Also, even if the volunteer sign up sheet is full, only about 60% - 80% of people show up (at least where I live). So they could likely still use your help distributing food.

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      They demolished the east wing and still don’t have coherent design plans. They’ve got stairways leading into walls and windows facing windows

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      Taco’s SpokesBarbie:

      But he’s a builder at heart, clearly, and so his heart and his mind is always churning about how to improve things here on the White House grounds. But at this moment in time, of course, the ballroom is really the president’s main priority.

      The right wing and naturally some “fact checkers” are saying this is taken out of context, of course. That Leavitt was only responding to the question about other projects.

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    Too soon! Trump really should’ve waited for the ballroom to be finished to hold a lavish banquet with his billionaire pals on the day the food stamps get canceled.