• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    15 hours ago

    I doubt countries are sharing intel with the US given how Trump and his minions handle classified information.

    So she probably wouldn’t know whether or not Iran was building nukes.

    Iran is a ally of Russia, so if she did have information on Iran building nukes Putin probably wouldn’t let her say. Trump probably overruled that because he saw Israel was winning and he wanted to take credit for the win.

    What a shitshow the US has become.

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      12 hours ago

      "We’re sorry, your [x] has been disabled due to unapproved usage.

      Press any key to agree with the regime…"

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      14 hours ago

      they been months away from nukes for decades, any moment now. that eta can’t go down due to US/Israel propaganda

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    1 day ago

    ‘Could’ vs ‘are’.

    They may not have been, but they could if they wanted to, supposedly.

    Now, if they didnt before, they certainly have the motivation and arguably the justification.

    I certainly wouldn’t blame them for seeking out nuclear weapons now.

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      16 hours ago

      There is no reason to be weeks away from an atomic bomb unless you’re interested in building a bomb. Tulsi was wrong about the timeline, but they were/are doing all the things a country interested in building a bomb would do.

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        15 hours ago

        Well, maybe if foreign countries would leave them the fuck alone to do things like control and develop their own infrastructure and natural resources; they wouldn’t require nuclear weapons just to get some peace and quiet.

        The last couple decades has proven that’s the only deterrent that actually works.

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          15 hours ago

          Did you know Iran is the country that supports Hamas, Hezbollah, the Hotuthis and a bunch of other terrorist organizations? Did you know Iran has made many official statements about wiping Israel off the map?

          Strange way to act if you want to be left alone.

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            9 hours ago

            Wouldn’t you hold a grudge after having your rapid progress towards technological and ideological growth completely derailed by a coup orchestrated by a foreign power that plunged your country into decades of chaotic religious fanaticism which suppresses freedom/human rights to this day?

            Especially when that foreign power continues to threaten your existence and expand into territory surrounding you?

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      i remember her trying to pander to the Bernie crowd after he “lost” the primaries in 2016. it was the first time I heard of her and some articles were treating it as if she was going to take Bernie’s torch.

      She was right when she was talking about Bernie’s healthcare and socialism liteish, but it was more of a broken clock

      so, she’s a complete grifter, trying to get ahead without any principles.

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      15 hours ago

      Bullshit, some things happen on day one!!! Like the ending of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

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    2 days ago

    Just like with Putin’s stooges, the grovelling and the self humiliation is the point.

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        1 day ago

        Iran’s actions seem to stem more from their close relationship with the east. Most western allied states de-escelated or gave up nuclear capabilities, such as Ukraine.

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          1 day ago

          Ukraine did it under the promise that US will protect them.

          trump proved the world that relying on the US is a stupid ass idea and that nukes are more valuable than American promises

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            22 hours ago

            Counterpoint: Nukes are not providing Iran or North Korea any value. In fact it may very well be the justification for why they get wiped off the map.

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              Counterpoint: if it wasn’t nukes, there’d be some other justification. The alleged Iraqi WMD were never found, so basically we toppled their government (not that I’m exactly shedding tears over Saddam, but ISIS wasn’t great either), got a bunch of people killed, and blew two trillion dollars out of our ass for ???.

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                The alleged Iraqi WMD were never found but the CIA did present Aluminium tubes intel to congress at that time.

                To be clear, I am not saying Iran could have avoided being attacked or that they should appeal to the USA, far from it. What they need to do is disarm nuclear research and tech in return for the ability to hide behind other NATO members and the EU, as opposed to taking offers from Russia and China which assuredly will not end well.

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                  Nah, how about the US just stop finding excuses to throw away trillions of dollars getting people killed overseas for no reason.

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              21 hours ago

              North Korea has nukes and it never gets invaded and gets aid sent to it. Iran doesn’t have nukes and it is regularly attacked.

              I’d say their presence adds very clear value to the example country that actually has them.

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                21 hours ago

                North Korea is surrounded by allied China on one side and proper democracies on the other, but has come close to war many times such as when they bombed an inter-korean liaison office in 2020.

                I will repeat that the justification being used to attack Iran is Nuclear Weapons. It is not protecting them, it is the reason they are being attacked, and it also directly benefits hostile dictatorship Russia because they’re willing providers of nuclear weapons. Iran is being Grifted.

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                  You keep writing like they have them and thats why they are being attacked. Its specifically because they dont yet have them that they are being attacked. If they already had them like North Korea, their situation would be more similar. I doubt people would be bombing them, in the same way people aren’t bombing North Korea despite it acting very hostile and making direct threats.

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              22 hours ago

              counter counter point, no one dares wipe off North Korea,

              because US wiping north Korea means the end of LA.

              are you aware of MAD?

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                21 hours ago

                Does it sound like a manchild like Trump cares about MAD? We’re on the precipice of a forever war, world war 3, or possibly even total annihilation of life on earth and you’re sitting there saying everything is great because hyper aggressive nations have nukes.

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      1 day ago

      When I look at her eyes in a photo or video, I see the kind of evil where as she squeezed the life out of a kitten she would not laugh, cry, or grit her teeth. She would just stare, then tilt her head like a curious alien or Labrador without blinking.

      Please note that I am a fan of both dogs and space, so I am sending zero insults their direction in that comparison. It’s like if I were to compare the number of times Trump shit his pants throughout his first term with the number of times my baby boy – born right after the inauguration – shit his pants over the same interval.

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      my theory is they they aren’t “people”.

      they are mouthpieces of an institution. replaceable, and chosen for their bootlicking. if it wasn’t her, they would have chosen another puppet. same thing with CEOs, corporate goons, and most politicians.

      if they were honest and had actual beliefs they’ll have extraordinary resistance, if they even get a chance to speak.