Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a New York Democrat, ripped Donald Trump for his military attack against Iran on Saturday, saying the move is “absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.”
Ocasio-Cortez ripped the president’s action on X, formerly Twitter, and wrote, “The President’s disastrous decision to bomb Iran without authorization is a grave violation of the Constitution and Congressional War Powers. He has impulsively risked launching a war that may ensnare us for generations. It is absolutely and clearly grounds for impeachment.”
On the other hand, Senator John Fetterman, a Pennsylvania Democrat, came to Trump’s side and wrote on X, “As I’ve long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS. Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities. I’m grateful for and salute the finest military in the world.”
I like how they pretend if he is not the president it wouldn’t be the same. They lied about WMD in Iraq and went to war in behalf of israel. And the did regime change in Libya, bomb and missions in Somalia and Yemen and not a single word from almost all congress about war crimes in gaza.
Let’s be honest, AIPAC controls all level of governments.
The only issue now, white MAGA, who actually hate Jew, or Russian propagandist are calling him out.
As soon as AIPAC find dirt on them or manage to buy them, the progressive movement will find themselves alone again.
It wouldn’t. Trump can be bought off more easily. Trump literally released a propaganda AI hit piece on Gaza for Israel. Trump is literally illegally detaining protesters for protesting against Israel in universities. People who say Biden would have done the same show how clueless they are, specially now that the differences have shown how stark they are.
WMD in Iraq? Literally Republicans again.
Libya? Literally United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973. Is the organization constantly getting vilified by Israel by their condemnations of it also part of the same grand scheme in your world view?
Somalia? Another Republican president.
Your shotgun argumentation is bad and you should feel bad. AIPAC has a lot of power in the US, but it is not equally present in both parties and it does not manifest in the same way either. The US has bigger problems than AIPAC, but its fascist takeover has probably gone over your head as well.
Yeah you figured out the big secret. The Jews are the secret puppet masters of the world!
That or you’ve become antisemitic. Yeah, that’s probably it.
It is you who think when someone says AIPAC means Jew. Most Jew has nothing to do with AIPAC. Read more about Zionism and their history before and after WWII and read more about different mostly Jew who are on odd with the AIPAC and it’s Zionist views…
AIPAC is a group of American Jews that support Israel. So when you’re rambling on about AIPAC conspiracy theories you’re claiming both American Jews and Israeli Jews are evil puppet masters.
Antisemitism has in the past made subsets of Jews acceptable to hate. Look up the term Cosmopolitan Jew. Zionist Jew follows that pattern.
You’re being told by many people on the internet that it’s part of the Jewish conspiracy to accuse people of being antisemitic for criticizing Israel. I’m not Jewish, I’ve never been to Israel, I’m not being paid by anyone. I’m not a part of some conspiracy against you. Just someone who has learned how antisemitism worked in the past since I felt like I owed it to my grandfather who was damaged while fighting against some antisemitic assholes.
You’re following a pattern that has happened before.
It’s wrong to hate Jews because they are Jewish. That’s antisemitism. But it’s the right thing to do to unequivocally condemn the Israeli government and their enablers because of their right wing genocidal policies towards their neighbours. The pattern you are following is that of claiming Israel cannot be criticised without it being antisemitic, which is the same bullshit Netanyahu is trying to pull.
If you’re criticizing actions of the Israeli government that’s not antisemitism.
If you’re promoting conspiracy theories about globalist Jews being the secret puppet masters of the government, that is antisemitism.
Better not to engage with these account. I think their Zionist nature, as many of them, like to change the facts, create new one, then accuse people of being antisemitic.
Stop equating protocols of the elders of zion larpers with jews. That is literally some of the most antisemitic shit ever written.
Keep screaming impeachment when clearly that doesn’t work…he belongs in jail ya know for being a 34 count felon rapist seditionous traitor.
You know that that also did not work, right?
Yes clearly.
America is a shit show. Americans have shown they are ok with this.
Those with the authority to do their jobs and jail trump willfully abdicated their responsibility to do so. Yeah, there absolutely is a subset of this population aggressively driving us toward an oligarchy and authoritarian kleptocracy, but the majority of American citizens would prefer to see the law upheld. We don’t want a three-tiered legal system, the bottom jails first and throws away the key, the middle bleeds you dry with legal costs, and the top has no rules or consequences.
Don’t bunch us all up with the government. The government is ok with it being a shit show. Many voted against it. Many of us don’t agree.
Assuming the election wasn’t hacked, yeah…
I have my doubts about the election (and I’m a big data engineer with a cyber security cert)
traitor
Yeah, that’s the problem with Trump, he’s not a loyal patriot…
@MicroWave The problem is that even if the House impeaches AND the Senate convicts, we then have JD Vance as President. After Vance comes Mike Johnson. After Johnson comes Chuck Grassley. I went 17 levels down a succession list that includes Tulsi Gabbard and RFK, Jr. Impeachment doesn’t improve the leadership situation unless it includes Congress finally deciding to do its job and rein in the rogue Executive branch.
Johnson only happens if Vance is impeached along with Trump or for some other reason is unwilling or unable to serve as President. If Trump were to be removed from office, Vance would become president and would select a new vice President who would then be next in line for President.
Senate would never agree to remove Vance until they have a new VP chosen - who requires congressional approval, so they could stop the revolving door of traitors there if they wanted sanity back in the whitehouse
Like Obama’s action against Libya? 🤔
Look, I don’t like Trump either, but this is the same bullshit threat Republicans dropped when Obama was President.
Agreed. Except Netanyahu, a genocidal prick pulling the puppet strings of the White House for years, didn’t goad Obama into that. Obama made that terrible decision alone.
Trump is a manbaby who’s easily manipulated.
We’d have to prove that Trump was inappropriately influenced by an outside power before I support impeachment. Even though my gut tells me he probably traded bombs for a bucket of fried chicken…
Really? Even though he blatantly defied the constitution and attacked a foreign state out of nowhere without approval? That isn’t enough, he also needs to be stupid and easily manipulated (which he obviously is based on the mountains of evidence) before you want to hold him accountable?
Go fuck yourself.
I will go fuck myself. But let’s be fair. Clinton and Obama both dropped bombs(Obama did it theu drone strikes) on Iraq and other places like Yeman. Must be realistic about what “impeachable offenses” are and since “official acts” are off the table for presidential prosecution we should look to see if an act was “unofficial” i.e. illegal.
Fuck your red herring. They should’ve been punished too. Continue to go fuck yourself.
Well, I truly believe Trump is evil and should be impeached and thrown of out office, I just don’t think it will be for this unless an inside can provide proof that Trump did it for reasons, “OTHER Than self defense”, it’s just too easy for our Presidents to say, “I felt like Iran was a threat that constituted an emergency and then decided to act in order to protect America.”.
Over all, we’ve just given the PResident far too much power.
And I agree with your previous statement, he should have had authorization from somewhere, like a defense subcommittee or joint congressional/bi-partisan panel. This is something we should probably fix for the future…
How do you know who influenced Obama’s decisions?
If Congress wants the power to declare war back they need to repeal the war powers act.
I’m a bit confused. Isn’t the War Powers Act what gives congress the power to declare war, and the president can only do so if the US is DIRECTLY attacked? Someone more educated in US constitutional acts please correct me if I’m wrong, I know post-9/11 a lot of stuff got…“suspended in times of need”.
The war powers act makes it lawful for a president to take military action against any country, provided Congress is notified within 48 hours of that action. Then a president gets 60 days + 30 “withdrawal” to wage any war they want without congressional approval. Furthermore it’s been ruled violations are basically irrelevant if troops are gone before the matter gets to the supreme court.
Clinton and Obama both violated this law with 0 consequences. Trump might also violate the law, but we won’t know for 90 days.
I see, thank you for the explanation! I only learned about it in school within the context of Nixon and Vietnam during history class.
This is the right answer. Trump is absolutely a piece of garbage, and I think he was wrong for attacking Iran, but at this point I don’t think he’s broken any laws by attacking Iran.
Wasn’t right then, and isn’t right now.
he’s been impeached. what’s another one gonna do except distract everyone while he continues to war?
Well it’s not like Congress is busy approving or funding a war. They’ve got time.
IMO this is business as usual thinking.
The left needs to push for a vote to get Congress on the record where they stand.
And even if it doesn’t pass, getting some Republicans to vote yes would be a big win and a first step towards checking TACO.
If the senate actually has balls, they can remove him from office. Impeachment doesnt inherently carry consequences. The senate determines consequence
The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, “eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to… no punishment.”
The reason (well, one of the reasons) they don’t do it, is because Trump ignores orders. Meaning: if they want to remove him from office, it would literally come down to sending goons in to physically remove him, and the other goons might resist. It would get ugly.
The moment they decide he’s removed, he has no authority to stop them from removing him. Sec Serv wouldn’t listen to him. He’d be an 80 year old man hiding behind a door.
Um, *raises hand* point of parliamentary procedure; people are suffering and quite literally dying right now. It’s already extremely ugly.
Yes, but most Democrats in congress are feckless cowards. They don’t want to be seen “instigating” something ugly.
Instead, they’ll give speeches, hold up plaquards, and write firmly-worded letters.
And the Republicans are complicit, so.
No, the reason was Reds protecting their guy and refusing to hold him to account. Even if what you suggested were part of their motivation, the optics of Trump refusing accountability and literally being dragged out, hasn’t been paying attention to the optics that Trump himself brings to the US and the GOP, specifically. It’s a pretty shit justification.
The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, “eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to… no punishment.”
Not quite. The first two times were like a grand jury returning an indictment. That’s the House’s part of the equation. They have a vote requiring 50% of members to vote to impeach the president, effectively indicting him. The Senate then has to hold a trial that which takes a 67% vote to convict him and remove him from office.
Saying he has been impeached twice but not removed from office is the equivalent of saying someone has been indicted twice but not convicted. He hasn’t yet been convicted.
The older I get, the more I feel like the Senate is essentially the means through which corporations and the capital class defeat any popular movement. Our Constitution was written mostly by drunk, privileged, rich kids. I think sometimes you can really smell the disdain for lower classes in the way everything is built.
Caesar felt the same way.
Can’t believe I lived to see the fall of the Republic and rise of the TACO Triumvirate 🥹
Elon Musk is not Pompey.
I guess, but I am referring more to that there should only be a House of Representatives, and that the Senate serves no purpose other than to represent corporate interests and tamp down on popular sentiment.
The whole lot, with very few exceptions do.
And I’m saying that Ancient Rome only had a senate (no house or senate branches) and their corruption reached a point to where the ideal of a dictator was an improvement over the status quo.
Many Americans thought this. But the best they could come up with was Trump???
With three, stamps, you get a free impeachment.
She keeps doing dumb things (add pronouns to profile, remove them. keep using “latinx”). And sadly I think she’s the best we’ve got. Never trust a Christian. At least she seems to be anti-billionaire, which is better than Mayor Pete.
On the other hand, it would be funny if he got impeached for the one thing he did right.
Username checks out.
- woke bad
- progressives good
- religion bad
- billionaires bad
- bombing the middle east good
You’re enigmatic.
I’m a logical thinker, no team, solving logic puzzles for 30 years. Everybody else is wrong about most of what they believe. I do what I can.
So illegal bombing Iran for no reason was right?
We can’t allow another NK to happen. But a true leader would take out their evil leadership - the population hates him.
Then Congress should declare war per the constitution. Or do we not care about due process as long as it hurts the people we think are evil?
Every president is doing this. That’s why it was a bad statement. And with our congress being so shitty, I’m more concerned about actual effects on the world right now, legality has been irrelevant for 50+ years. People don’t see how close evil is to winning. The entire world could be like NK in a few decades if trends continue. This is not a game.
I’m more concerned about actual effects on the world right now, legality has been irrelevant for 50+ years.
And you don’t see the two as connected? A fucking mazing.
Which is the cause and which is the effect?
It will never happen. Instead, thousands will die (mostly innocents) and Americans will never get healthcare. EU will be a good lapdog and lick USA’s balls asking for more.
I hate this timeline.
If I were Iran right now sitting on (mostly destroyed) stockpiles of enriched uranium which can’t easily be turned into weapons-grade, I would be organizing dirty bombs going off in every world capital I could get agents inside.
Make no mistake, US and EU will be paying for this decision for decades to come, and we will deserve everything we get. May some god have mercy on our souls, because our owner class will not.
Thankfully you’re not in charge of Iran.
Sorry but EU is neither a lapdog nor responsible for the disaster you voted for. We aren’t really asking for much these days, either. Business is good and new deals with China are boosting the economy.
I don’t disagree that bombing Iran puts us at risk of starting a war we don’t want to be involved in. However I think the public is too split on the matter to put majority support behind impeachment.
Conservative circles themselves appear divided with some saying the display of force was necessary and avoided direct conflict (minimizing operational costs), some saying the President is authorized to conduct these actions under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, and some voicing dissent or disapproval altogether of this action.
The War Powers Resolution will probably be the loophole that conservative outlets use to claim that Trump has done nothing wrong. I don’t know if there’s been an exercise of this authority without congressional approval that has lead to the targeted country declaring war as a result. If this were to happen, maybe there will be clear grounds to impeach, but I don’t think the public will display a majority support for it to happen.
I agree that for practical purposes there is not the support for impeachment. But I do think that every unconstitutional thing he does should be called out with the simple but direct message that ‘impeachment and removal is the only remedy to a corrupt and unconstitutional POTUS’. We should say that over and over and over so that takes on its own meaning and the public is ready for it when sentiment inevitably brings us to the point it is actually possible.
Israel is quite literally the world’s biggest terrorist nation state. The paper thin transparent spin tactics of Israel’s defenders would be amusing if the results of its terrorism wasn’t so horrifying.
I’m not sure it’s Israel, but they and the USA are vying for that spot.
Would love for something to happen, but we all know nothing will.
What are they gonna do about it? Lawsuit? Lmao
Only a rag would quote Fetterman and credit him as a Democrat. He doesn’t act or believe what he did when he was elected as a Democrat, his perspective is irrelevant.
I’ve watched Fetterman’s 180 from across the pond. Don’t really understand what happened and what made him flip.
He had a stroke that damaged his brain.
Stop spreading that. It’s not true.
Fetterman was a shitty mayor before his current office. He chased after a blackman with a shotgun because the guy was simply jogging in his neighborhood. He vandalized local business in the middle of the night that he didn’t like.He firmly stated he was not progressive during his run for office. The Republicans labeled him a progressive librel to try and smear him. He was never progressive, ever. The stroke did not change his views. He is and always was a slimy politician .
So, I like this idea, and the recent expose indicates that the stroke has essentially rendered him non compis mentis, but do you really think the brain damage turned him conservative? Were there no red flags before? I genuinely don’t know enough about the guy.
There were definitely red flags before, it’s just that people ignored them because he was better than Dr. Oz. There’s a good Some More News video that goes into it.
They took him into a room and said “hey, do you want a mountain of legal bribes? If not, we will primary you with that same mountain”
Kendrick Lamar “It’s not enough.” I want him removed and charged for all the harm and civil rights violations and war crimes. No President has ever been held accountable, So you can start with him.
Nixon was. They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia, but went with lying about adultery.
They could have impeached Clinton for Bosnia
Why? Forgive my ignorance, balkan history is hard.
He violated both UN and NATO charters, iirc. Imo, intervention was necessary, because the Serbs were ethnically cleansing the Croats and Muslims, and Western Europe was dragging feet, but he violated the law and badly mishandled the intervention.
I don’t know for certain, but I think you might be mixing up Kosovo and Bosnia. Because I know he illegally (by international law) bombed Yugoslavia for the Kossovar Albanians (which some argue hastened and exacerbated the ethnic cleansing of the Albanians, which aligns quite well with the timeline, especially considering there was a concrete diplomatic alternatice proposed by both sides), but he got approval for this. Famously, Bernie Sanders voted in favor. So while it should earn him a trip to the Hague, he didn’t violate any domestic laws that I’m aware of.
But again, Yugoslavia in the 90s is crazy complicated, and there’s so much I don’t know, so maybe I’m just completely wrong here.
The left can never pass up fighting a battle they’ll lose.
“He’s guilty of crimes. He should be prosecuted for those crimes.”
“You stupid idiot leftists. Don’t you realize opposing rich people never works? Just brown nose them so you can become one somebody. That’s the real ticket.”
You make progress by fighting the battles you can win. Fighting battles you can’t win is all about getting attention and accomplishing nothing.
There are twice as many NFL players on their standard rosters than there are billionaires in the U.S.
Mathematically the ~850 billionaires make up 0.00025% of the population.
The average person is about 22 times more likely to get struck by lightning than to become a billionaire.
There’s a lot of people trying that brown nosing tactic, yet don’t realize there isn’t room on the roster for infinite members, there is a fairly finite amount of funds, and for someone to move up, the money has to come from others. Roughly the net worth of 5,000 U.S. families given to one person. But in reality, the devaluing of wealth from near every individual in the U.S. so they can have it.
