Not much forges a bond like facing potential death together. And in this case, we are answering why guys get interested in war. So technically this is without bloodshed today, as the blood was shed lomg ago.

I think it often has to do with the kind of bonding between men during war, and guys being drawn to that more than the war itself.

I am with you on everything you said. But some dark humor hit me and I had to share. There is more than one way to make “everyone” healthy. Sure universal Healthcare seems like the obvious solution. But what if we just kill all the unhealthy people. Lies, damn lies, and statistics. :)

But what class are they? Or are you saying they are a class themselves?

That said, most small business owners I know work way to hard and end up with very little in the end. It is hard to compete with the large corporations. But in the past, if the area they lived in experienced significant growth, they often made a killing on the business property alone. Farmers don’t really have that since they live on the business property.

Kinda feels like they should be their own class really. Though I suppose there is a big difference between farmers who own their land, and the ones where the bank essentially owns it… and they just pay rent with no real hope of wver paying it off.

If the country goes bankrupt I don’t have to pay taxes anymore. Then I could pay cash for my medical, and skip the insurance premiums. With the savings I could fund 10 people’s healthcare and still have a ton leftover to pay extra state taxes to have the federal roads maintained…

Interesting. I can certainly see the distinction. Does that make them part of the middle class?

The guy is a mayor, and finds himself on the national stage. He is now a target of trumps. Staying in the public eye is self preservation. Not saying it can’t lead in the right direction.

That said, the major unions are run by poloticians as well. And laws don’t favor them on this. So they will stay out of it unless you get some new little guys who get elected to leadership by claiming they will do these things. But trump supporters are common enough in such unions that it would be challenging for that to happen. It’s more likely the unions unofficially join in after critical mass is achieved. Thier leaders don’t want to go to jail.

I’m seriously curious, why do you imply they aren’t?

So wait, what is your take here? Like what response should their be to this leak?

And sadly military prison is probably way better then where ICE puts the people they detain. Some days I am not sure humans deserve to continue to exist.

For the orders part, I believe there is a JAG hotline to call and get a “ruling” or advice. That would in theory take the legal ramifications of the decision off the guardsman. But I don’t know how well that actually works in practice. It is unlikely to be a smooth as it sounds since the person on the phone doesn’t want to put their skin on the line either.

People. Are what he says? They just do whatever they want anyway.

Unless it is right before skynet nukes em all. But I digress.

Exactly, so winning the tug of war for the national guard is key. And court wins help do that.

While certainly true, we are fighting over the same military. And that military is oath bound to refuse illegal orders. So, the more judges that declare the orders illegal or declare an injunction against them, the more members of that military that will refuse orders.

Trump is known to turn on a dime against anyone who doesn’t do what he asks. Once he does that to military members refusing clearly illegal orders, more of them will refuse. So, every bit sets the stage for winning more and more of the military against the nazis.

Best case, JAG officers from a state national guard advise troops to ignore illegal orders, trump attempts to fire them, but doesn’t have the authority and he turns entire states worth of national guard completely against him. Then he orders other states guard to arrest them, and their JAG advises to ignore. So he orders the military to do it. And their JAG advises to ignore. Then he has lost the entirety of the military.

It’s stronger… it’s money.

They said from the beginning that they were only there to rescue anyone should they end up in the ocean. Not to protect the aid boats.

The fact that they openly said that tells you all you need to know about thier governments.

I mean honor, empathy, tradition… all of that, on a personal level are technically a weakness in a head to head competition. Saturday morning cartoons lied, cheaters do win. But on a larger scale than one person, and longer time span than one day or even decade, they give a group a significant advantage. Trump et all only care about themselves and the very near future. That is why thier statements resonate with a fair number of people who care only about the same.

He is the entertainer… perhaps the jester.

Do you how how to tell if trump is lieing? His lips are moving.