I just knew the comments were going to be us tearing each other apart.
I’m just thinking out loud here. What if Progressives that are registered as Democrats changed their registration to independent? Also, stop sending them your money. We could organize it to happen over one week. Then keep it that way for 30 days. See how much power we truly have. If we can show the Democratic party that they would never win another election without us, maybe they would be more likely to listen.
We have to be careful though, I know this President is running roughshod over the Constitution with the blessing of SCOTUS and Congress but they don’t have enough votes or State legislatures to amend the Constitution. If they get that, then that truly is the end of this experiment.
I’m sorry but this is an old tactic in my country. 2 major parties always fighting for power, and the one always ask to vote them because the other party will destroy the country.
And the blame goes to the no voters or the ice-cream voters or the voters that turn their back, not to the party itself or to their voters that did shit when they were in power for many years. Maybe its time to pay attention to what caused the problem and not to the result.
As for the USA, Trump is the outcome of the Democrats acting as Republicans for decades.
If you want my vote then stop telling me leftists can’t win. If the lesser of two evils is the best we can hope for then I’ll vote for the cliff with rusted spikes at the bottom. You can attack me over that view but all that will buy you is a self righteous feeling as our bus plunges over the edge.
PS. I’ve reliably voted the lesser of two evils for as long as I can remember and the outcome is that it always gets worse. A slow swing towards a totalitarian society just makes people feel like everything is normal. Especially to younger people who have never seen a better life for average Americans and don’t realize were sliding until its too late. Chuck Shumer isn’t going to stop our slide but like the Trump BBB he may fight to change the name.
The problem here is having only two choices.
Where I’m from we have coalition governments. It’s very rare for one party to have a majority. So they have to argue for months and come to some kind of agreement with other parties. The good thing is that everyone can vote for what they really want. There’s not really any ‘lost votes’. The bad thing is that the coalition forming process is messy and slow and the result is much watered down. But I’d much rather have this than a two party system.
If I had been a US citizen I’d have voted for Harris though.
…yeah, f*ck off, plutocrat…
“I voted for the cliff because I know the ice cream place is down below it and I wanted to get there faster.” - Have to assume this person exists, but I’m not sure who they would be in the analogy. 🤔
Edit: Oh, I just had to scroll down a few more comments to find them.
A vote is not an endorsement, it’s a move.
Yes, it’s exactly like this dumb, unnecessary analogy! Just that they didn’t tell you the ice cream parlor is at the bottom of the cliff anyway.
im sure the illogical thinkers will start thinking logically any day now
Remember, no matter how beautiful, morally righteous, or gratifying your strategy is, you should really look at the results
The “drive off the cliff” party vs the “drive off the cliff, but ever so slightly slower and also we’ll wave some rainbow flags I guess” party. I know who I’m voting for!
Now bombing civilians is compared to “an ice-cream”. Lemmy world admins should really do something about all the genocide denialism going on on their instance.
The ice-cream:
Enjoy your own medicine, loser.
Lol like “harm reduction” is going to save us.
Bad analogy anyway bc the effects are immediate anyway.
If we taxed everybody who didn’t vote there be a lot more can you spend your money voter since there is an immediate consequence for not voting.
I’m going to engage in local organizing. I feel like that’s much better and I’ll be able to protect my community and my family
More like two options: one runs the bus off the cliff while the other sets it on fire. Sure, we’ll live longer in the fire scenario. Maybe we can even put it out!
But I’m still looking for the fucking exit.
