OBJECTION!

So a handful of people grew consciences and decided that they didn’t like the Nazis, but what was actually done to them while they remained loyal, or to others who never turned against them? “Some people grew disillusioned” isn’t the same thing as the Nazis actively turning on them personally.

When the Nazis seized property, it was generally the property of minorities which was then often redistributed upwards to the rich. Many bourgeoisie made out like bandits, so long as they were white and didn’t have a conscience.

Like, just google what happens to most oligarchs when they support any kind of authoritarianism. Whether it’s Mussolini, Hitler, or Putin, they always get shafted in the end.

What on earth are you talking about? The oligarchs who supported Hitler made a bunch of money, saw organized labor crushed, and then did fine after the war. Nazi war criminal Fritz ter Meer, who was a senior board member of IG Farben, manufacturing Zyklon B for the gas chambers, got a couple years in prison and then became chairman of Bayer.

Trumps not wrong for once.

He’s definitely wrong morally, constitutionally, and strategically just not legally, per how the courts have (mis)interpreted the constitution.

Sanctions haven’t been working

Well, in order to work, they’d have to have a coherent objective.

They did work at bringing Iran to the negotiating table, which led to Obama’s Iran deal. The only problem being that Obama made it, so Trump had to hate it. The only thing the US actually wants from Iran is for it to be an enemy the president can bomb to look tough.

it should be effective at stopping their program.

The program that we have no evidence actually existed, that is. Certainly, if they weren’t actively persuing one before, they’d be mad not to now. How else could they stop the frequent, random unprovoked aggression from the US?

Exactly.

See also: Military Operations Other Than War, Low Intensity Conflicts, Police Action (e.g. Vietnam).

What are the democrats gonna do to them? They’ve got nothing to be afraid of, look what happened to Bush.

Well, the War Powers Act is unconstitutional - but in the other direction. Deploying military force requires a declaration of war, which requires congressional approval, but the War Powers Act circumvents that by pretending that using euphemisms to describe military actions instead of calling it war makes it different, somehow.

Yep. And we’ve somehow gone backwards from there.

Sucks that they’re lying and whitewashing but hey, at least they’re pretending to be anti-war. If we’re really lucky, we might even get a candidate in 2028 who says war is bad, and then pivots immediately if elected.

There hasn’t been a legitimately anti-war presidential nominee from either party in my lifetime, and there never will be, unless something changes drastically.

So?

Within 20 minutes of a phone call between Reagan and Begin, in which the former said the bombings were going too far and needed to stop, Begin ordered the bombings stopped.

Virtually every current US politician is to the right of Reagan on Israel.

Reagan did.

Biden and the Dems spent a year pretending they had no power over Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

…pretending, because they did, in fact, have power over it. Are you claiming they actually had no such power?

Israel is a puppet of the US, not the other way around.

Lol, what? The military was off slaughtering people en masse in multiple wars of aggression and you consider it a point of national pride that they didn’t have parades (which they also did)?

I find it really entertaining when some low information group becomes aware of information that was fully publicly available before, but which the members vehemently refused to acknowledge purely because they hated/distrusted the people saying it and it didn’t track with their narratives.

There are some libertarian types who might put up a token objection to medding in foreign conflicts. However, Trump equivocated on foreign policy while Biden and Harris were fully gung ho about getting involved in every conflict everywhere, which allowed Trump to sell himself as more “moderate” on foreign policy (though in reality he’s also a hawk).

The core of Trump’s base has no problem with it, of course, but they’re always going to vote for him and not every voter Trump replied on to win fits that stereotype.

Wow, this thread is full of Russian bots and Trump supporters. Biden is the picture of health, extremely spry and cognizant, personally, I thought he handled himself very well in the debates, despite the media attacking him unfairly over his stutter. Regardless, he’s the nominee, whether you like him or not, no amount of complaining will change that. He’s the lesser evil so we’re stuck with him and you just have to vote for him, unconditionally.

Please, what’s your source on your claim?

Tankie spotted

Average interaction.

And everyone else is free to criticize her, even if that’s a point of view you don’t like.

If your best defense of her is, “The things she’s said aren’t illegal,” that’s not exactly a high bar.