Not defending any of this but these WW3 comments are so weird. The US has been in so many wars in the Middle East, why would this specific one turn into a world war? Especially since there will not be boots on the ground (you never know with trump but I think that’s genuinely the last thing he wants to do).

You don’t need to invade to do that.

A Kamala administration would not have left the Iran nuclear agreement though.

It’s fair game to blame citizens of fascist countries for the politics they helped to bring forward. And the “democrats and republicans are the same”-crowd that is very vocal on Lemmy definitely helped to enable this.

I don’t know if they can, honestly. Iran has lost air superiority in their own skies as well as, reportedly, a majority of their long range missile launch sites. US bases in the near gulf states might be in range of Irans short range arsenal, but do they really want a strike into their neighbors territory? We’ll see.

Biden wouldn’t have voided and left the Iran nuclear agreement (that he himself helped to negotiate and put in place) though, which was the stone that got all of this rolling in the first place.

I agree with most of the points you’re raising in this thread but Belarus is definitely a Russian puppet state more so than a conventional ally.

This is some of the most geopolitically misinformed shit I’ve read in a while, congratulations.

How is Iran even a factor in that case then?

US weapons stockpiles aren’t depleted in the slightest. You guys sent your old stuff to Ukraine and not much more, and you haven’t sent anything substantial in over a year.

Iran will, most likely, not involve more than an air campaign and the US can do that with a bomber wing and a carrier strike group. I can’t imagine a case where this evolves into a full invasion (but of course with trump you can never be sure).

If anything, seeing Iran getting dominated by Israel and the US would probably give China some doubts about a possible operation against Taiwan.

I would say most if not all boxes of fascism by definition are ticked in Iran.

Dictatorial leader, forceful suppression of any opposition and/or critics, strong militarism, centralized autocracy, nation above the individual, a strong regimentation of society, …

Are you seriously defending the mullah regime? Do you know anything about what’s happening in Iran?

Okay so we believe Tulsi Gabbard now?

They do not, that’s kind of what this whole deal is about dude. And they’ve been launching what they have at Israel for a few days, it’s not much.

This is what American Christianity is.

Okay so Israel denies that they have nuclear weapons but at the same time threatens the whole world with nuclear annihilation as the user above claimed. How does that work?

You really have some learning to do about the history of Iran. Good luck!

People get very emotional when discussing Israel and can’t stay with the facts.

If you read the link you’ve provided you’ll see that it’s a last resort doctrine meant to deter neighboring countries from invading. Pretty much in line with how most western (nuclear) nations would use their nuclear arsenal.

If I’ve learned one thing it’s that it’s absolutely impossible to have productive discussions on geopolitics on Lemmy. People are insanely uninformed but at the same time will not move an inch from their preconceived opinions.

The fact that Israel is a warmongering country guilty of a genocide but at the same is no real nuclear threat in the region whereas Iran would be is something that exceeds the binary thinking of people here.